* [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history
@ 2007-08-20 17:39 Nordine Benkeltoum
2007-08-20 18:15 ` Jean Delvare
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From: Nordine Benkeltoum @ 2007-08-20 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Hello,
I'm carrying out a study on Open Source Software.
I have a question about lm-sensors:
Could you tell me who is at the origin of lm-sensors? Is it a firm or a
non-profit community of volunteers?
Thank you for your answer.
Nordine Benkeltoum
PhD Student
Center for Organization and Management Sciences
Ecole des Mines de Paris
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* Re: [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history
2007-08-20 17:39 [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history Nordine Benkeltoum
@ 2007-08-20 18:15 ` Jean Delvare
2007-08-21 17:20 ` Philip Edelbrock
2007-08-23 6:52 ` Nordine Benkeltoum
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From: Jean Delvare @ 2007-08-20 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Bonjour Nordine,
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:39:02 +0200, Nordine Benkeltoum wrote:
> I'm carrying out a study on Open Source Software.
>
> I have a question about lm-sensors:
>
> Could you tell me who is at the origin of lm-sensors? Is it a firm or a
> non-profit community of volunteers?
>
> Thank you for your answer.
To the best of my knowledge, the lm-sensors project was originally
created by Alexander Larsson, Frodo Looijaard and Philip Edelbrock, as
can be seen in the README file of lm-sensors 1.3.0:
http://dl.lm-sensors.org/lm-sensors/releases/lm_sensors-1.3.0.tgz
The former two were already gone by the time I joined the project, so I
can't speak for them. Philip is still around (which, now that I come to
think of it, is quite impressive) so hopefully he can tell you.
My understanding is that they were hobbyists working together on the
project for fun, and there was no company behind it. As you can see,
the project is quite old, it started in 1998, and I don't think that
there were many free software projects funded by companies back then.
This however doesn't mean that the authors weren't using lm-sensors as
part of their jobs.
Oh, and I should also add that Philip's company, Netroedge, has been
hosting our web server and CVS repository for 7 years or so. Not sure
if this qualifies as a sponsorship but this was sure nice from them :)
The list of donations we received also mentions the name of the other
companies which have been helping us:
http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/donations
--
Jean Delvare
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* Re: [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history
2007-08-20 17:39 [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history Nordine Benkeltoum
2007-08-20 18:15 ` Jean Delvare
@ 2007-08-21 17:20 ` Philip Edelbrock
2007-08-23 6:52 ` Nordine Benkeltoum
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From: Philip Edelbrock @ 2007-08-21 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Thanks for the summary Jean, some additions below.
On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Jean Delvare wrote:
> Bonjour Nordine,
>
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:39:02 +0200, Nordine Benkeltoum wrote:
>> I'm carrying out a study on Open Source Software.
>>
>> I have a question about lm-sensors:
>>
>> Could you tell me who is at the origin of lm-sensors? Is it a firm
>> or a
>> non-profit community of volunteers?
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the lm-sensors project was originally
> created by Alexander Larsson, Frodo Looijaard and Philip Edelbrock, as
> can be seen in the README file of lm-sensors 1.3.0:
>
> http://dl.lm-sensors.org/lm-sensors/releases/lm_sensors-1.3.0.tgz
>
> The former two were already gone by the time I joined the project,
> so I
> can't speak for them. Philip is still around (which, now that I
> come to
> think of it, is quite impressive) so hopefully he can tell you.
Thanks! :') Although in recent years my participation has been
limited to doing releases (packaging up the files, signing them, and
other related chores). I loosely follow the list to address
requests (like this one) which I can help with.
Back in the beginning I just graduated from college with computer
science and computer engineering degrees. I had a lot of time and
energy, not a lot of responsibilities, so it was natural to find an
interesting outlet.
>
> My understanding is that they were hobbyists working together on the
> project for fun, and there was no company behind it. As you can see,
> the project is quite old, it started in 1998, and I don't think that
> there were many free software projects funded by companies back then.
> This however doesn't mean that the authors weren't using lm-sensors as
> part of their jobs.
If I remember correctly, I emailed the LKML asking if there was
anyone working on support for the LM78 and LM75 (btw- these two LM
chips were pretty much the only server sensor chips around at the
time, so hence we named the project 'lm-sensors'). The answer was
'no' but that Frodo was willing to partner up with me to start some
support. It was mostly out of wanting to have some fun playing with
the sensor chips and using the drivers we developed to monitor
servers under our care.
The lm78 was the first driver which we leveraged a lot of good work
done by Alex. The LM75 was on an I2C bus, so we had to write a
driver for the piix4 to access it. That got our feet wet with I2C
driver development.
The next big jump was when Frodo took Simon Vogl's modular I2C stack
and wrote it into lm-sensors. There was a lot of amazing work done
by Frodo to do that, and he solved/fixed a lot of issues with Vogl's
stack (which was already amazing). Simon was happy to let us take
over the maintenance for his stack, and it eventually became standard
in the Linux kernel its self.
Over time the list of drivers grew, more contributors joined on, I
had less time. With a fulltime job and more responsibility (and less
energy), I stepped back and let more talented people with the time
and energy take over. I enjoy seeing the project grow and be
maintained by some very talented and smart people (like Jean and many
others).
>
> Oh, and I should also add that Philip's company, Netroedge, has been
> hosting our web server and CVS repository for 7 years or so. Not sure
> if this qualifies as a sponsorship but this was sure nice from them :)
> The list of donations we received also mentions the name of the other
> companies which have been helping us:
>
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/donations
Yes, I've been very grateful to Edge Design of Oregon (aka
netroedge.com, and edgedesign.us) for donating some server space,
related administration, and some company time to work on Lm-sensors
over the years. They even threw a small celebration when lm-sensors
was formally integrated into the mainstream Linux kernel. The
company has moved to using OSS almost exclusively for software
development (mostly web sites with moderately complex backends).
Phil
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* Re: [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history
2007-08-20 17:39 [lm-sensors] lm-sensors history Nordine Benkeltoum
2007-08-20 18:15 ` Jean Delvare
2007-08-21 17:20 ` Philip Edelbrock
@ 2007-08-23 6:52 ` Nordine Benkeltoum
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From: Nordine Benkeltoum @ 2007-08-23 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Bonjour Jean,
Thank you for your explanation.
Nordine.
Jean Delvare a écrit :
> Bonjour Nordine,
>
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:39:02 +0200, Nordine Benkeltoum wrote:
>
>> I'm carrying out a study on Open Source Software.
>>
>> I have a question about lm-sensors:
>>
>> Could you tell me who is at the origin of lm-sensors? Is it a firm or a
>> non-profit community of volunteers?
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>>
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the lm-sensors project was originally
> created by Alexander Larsson, Frodo Looijaard and Philip Edelbrock, as
> can be seen in the README file of lm-sensors 1.3.0:
>
> http://dl.lm-sensors.org/lm-sensors/releases/lm_sensors-1.3.0.tgz
>
> The former two were already gone by the time I joined the project, so I
> can't speak for them. Philip is still around (which, now that I come to
> think of it, is quite impressive) so hopefully he can tell you.
>
> My understanding is that they were hobbyists working together on the
> project for fun, and there was no company behind it. As you can see,
> the project is quite old, it started in 1998, and I don't think that
> there were many free software projects funded by companies back then.
> This however doesn't mean that the authors weren't using lm-sensors as
> part of their jobs.
>
> Oh, and I should also add that Philip's company, Netroedge, has been
> hosting our web server and CVS repository for 7 years or so. Not sure
> if this qualifies as a sponsorship but this was sure nice from them :)
> The list of donations we received also mentions the name of the other
> companies which have been helping us:
>
> http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/trunk/doc/donations
>
>
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