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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
To: "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: High vm-exit latencies during kvm boot-up/shutdown
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:08:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <471DBA1A.2080108@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A024414D9-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>


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Dong, Eddie wrote:
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jan.kiszka-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org [mailto:jan.kiszka-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org] 
>> Sent: 2007年10月23日 14:38
>> To: Dong, Eddie
>> Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
>> Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] High vm-exit latencies during kvm 
>> boot-up/shutdown
>>
>> Dong, Eddie wrote:
>>> kvm-devel-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeing fairly high vm-exit latencies (300-400 us) 
>> during and only
>>>> during qemu/kvm startup and shutdown on a Core2 T5500 in 
>> 32-bit mode.
>>>> It's most probably while the VM runs inside bios code. 
>> During the rest
>>>> of the time, while some Linux guest is running, the exit 
>> latencies are
>>>> within microseconds, thus perfectly fine for the real-time scenarios
>>>> I have in mind. 
>>> How is this time spent? All in Qemu?
>> Most probably. I have a function tracer installed, and it does not
>> report any kernel function call between the begin of the asm block and
>> its end.
> 
> If the time is spent in Qemu, then it is possible to be that long 
> since Qemu may read/write disk for the VM virtual disk.

Clarification: I can't precisely tell what code is executed in VM mode,
as I don't have qemu or that guest instrumented. I just see the kernel
entering VM mode and leaving it again more than 300 us later. So I
wonder why this is allowed while some external IRQ is pending.

> 
>>> Usually a kernel only VM Exit cost less than 1us.
>> That's what I'm seeing for the rest as well.
>>
>> I have read that certain guest states do not allow preemptions by
>> external interrupts (here it is the timer IRQ), but both
>> GUEST_INTERRUPTIBILITY_INFO and GUEST_ACTIVITY_STATE are 0 on entry,
>> e.g. Is there a way for the guest to trigger a non-preemptible SMM
>> entry, and that without the kernel noticing it?
>>
> I am not aware of this possibility.
> Eddie

Jan


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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-22 23:09 High vm-exit latencies during kvm boot-up/shutdown Jan Kiszka
     [not found] ` <471D2D8C.1080202-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  1:05   ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]     ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02441127-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  6:38       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]         ` <471D96DC.7070809-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  7:46           ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]             ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A024414D9-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  9:08               ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <471DBA1A.2080108-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  9:46                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <471DC311.2050003-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 13:30                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                         ` <471DF76B.7040001-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:19                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                             ` <471E02F7.6080408-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:41                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                 ` <471E0818.6060405-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:44                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2007-10-23 15:26                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <471E1290.2000208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 15:59                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                         ` <471E1A77.90808-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:14                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                             ` <471E1DCD.5040301-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:31                                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                 ` <471E21D7.3000309-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:38                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                     ` <471E238E.6040005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:56                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                         ` <471E27B0.1090001-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 17:05                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                             ` <471E29C5.1060807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  8:37                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                 ` <471F0464.4000704-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  8:52                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                     ` <471F07C0.8040104-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  9:16                                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                         ` <471F0D57.3020209-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  9:33                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                             ` <471F116D.9080903-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24 16:22                                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <471F7143.8040406-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24 16:52                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <471F7865.7070506-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-25 17:50                                                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <4720D76D.7070300-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-25 18:02                                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <4720DA42.6090300-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  1:41                                                                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482827-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  8:20                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <4721A350.7030409-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  8:32                                                                                                       ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                         ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482B96-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:03                                                                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <4721AD49.7010405-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:18                                                                                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482BE4-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:37                                                                                                                   ` Dor Laor
2007-10-26 12:21                                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                                                     ` <4721DBE4.6040801-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29  8:32                                                                                                                       ` Dong, Eddie
2007-10-26  9:25                                                                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-26  9:18                                                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <4721B0FD.9020006-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:36                                                                                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482BFE-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:58                                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-23 14:43                               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                 ` <1193150619.8343.21.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:50                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2007-10-23  8:16           ` Avi Kivity

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