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* [LARTC] custom route for forwarded traffic
@ 2007-10-30 14:38 Aleksander Kamenik
  2007-10-30 16:14 ` Grant Taylor
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From: Aleksander Kamenik @ 2007-10-30 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

Hi,


I have two networks, users and servers connected via vpn (ipsec). Both 
internal networks. The routing is fine and connections work both ways.

Accordingly both networks have a firewall each which faces the internet 
and they create the vpn link between each other. Both firewalls have 
only one external IP (if they had more, I wouldn't be asking).

The servers network's firewall however does DNAT too. This is for 
external clients who connect to the external IP of the firewall and so 
can connect to the internal mail and webserver.

I want the computers in the users network to connect to the external IP 
of the servers firewall AND have the connection go through the VPN.

If I add a rule to the main routing table in the users network's 
firewall for servers network's external IP to go through the VPN, I will 
break the VPN connection (kind of like the chicken and egg problem).

So I need to create a route, which will apply only for forwarded 
connections. How do I do that?


Thanks,

-- 
Aleksander Kamenik
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* Re: [LARTC] custom route for forwarded traffic
  2007-10-30 14:38 [LARTC] custom route for forwarded traffic Aleksander Kamenik
@ 2007-10-30 16:14 ` Grant Taylor
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Grant Taylor @ 2007-10-30 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lartc

On 10/30/07 09:38, Aleksander Kamenik wrote:
> I have two networks, users and servers connected via vpn (ipsec). Both 
> internal networks. The routing is fine and connections work both ways.
> 
> Accordingly both networks have a firewall each which faces the internet 
> and they create the vpn link between each other. Both firewalls have 
> only one external IP (if they had more, I wouldn't be asking).
> 
> The servers network's firewall however does DNAT too. This is for 
> external clients who connect to the external IP of the firewall and so 
> can connect to the internal mail and webserver.
> 
> I want the computers in the users network to connect to the external IP 
> of the servers firewall AND have the connection go through the VPN.
> 
> If I add a rule to the main routing table in the users network's 
> firewall for servers network's external IP to go through the VPN, I will 
> break the VPN connection (kind of like the chicken and egg problem).
> 
> So I need to create a route, which will apply only for forwarded 
> connections. How do I do that?

It has been a long time sense I messed with IPSec under Linux so I can 
not say any thing for sure.  But what I can say is the direction that I 
would start looking.

           +----------+            +----------+
(LAN 1)---+ Router 1 +---(INet)---+ Router 2 +---(LAN 2)
           +----------+            +----------+

I would only encrypt traffic that is from / to LAN 1 and to / from LAN 2 
through the IPSec VPN.  Any other traffic from / to LAN 1 that is not 
going to / from LAN 2 would be unencrypted and vice versa for LAN 2. 
This way when LAN 1 tried to access the external IP of Router 2 it would 
not match your routing rules for encryption and thus not be encrypted. 
If the traffic is not encrypted it should be subject to the normal DNAT 
rule(s) on Route 2.  Likewise for reverse traffic and the corresponding 
traffic from LAN 2.

I'm not sure how to set up such routes with current IPSec 
implementations so I can't help specifically with that.  What I do see 
is the various types of traffic that will be seen from each end.

LAN 1 <-> LAN 2    (encrypted via IPSec VPN)
                    (LAN 1 subnet to LAN 2 subnet)
LAN 1 <-> INet     (unencrypted)
                    (Router 1 external to INet)
LAN 1 <-> Router 2 (unencrypted)
                    (Router 1 external to Router 2 external)
INet  <-> Router 1 (unencrypted)
                    (INet to Router 1 external & DNATed in)

The same above is true in reverse for LAN 2.  So in short, I see four 
classes of traffic at each connection.

I hope this helps clear things up and make the water a little less 
muddy.  If you need any thing else, I'll be glad to try.



Grant. . . .
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