From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86"
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:12:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47352FC9.9080701@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47352DF2.5000409@didntduck.org>
Brian Gerst wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Sam Ravnborg wrote:
>>> This is the patch that get rid of ARCH=i386 and ARCH=x86_64
>>> and introduce ARCH=x86.
>>> It touches several files but the changes are all one or two-liners.
>>>
>>> x86: drop backward compatibility symlinks to i386/boot and
>>> x86_64/boot
>>> kbuild: sanity check the specified arch
>>
>> IMO it negatives impacts the workflow when you -remove- the ability to
>> set 32/64-bit on the make command line.
>>
>> Building and testing for both architectures now requires the additional
>> step of editing .config, which is a clear workflow negative impact at
>> least for me.
>>
>> I switch between other cross-compiled arches (alpha, usually) on the
>> makefile command line
>>
>> Yes, I know other 32/64-bit arches require .config editing. That
>> doesn't change the basic fact that this is a workflow regression.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> You can use:
>
> make i386_defconfig
> make x86_64_defconfig
Does that work for alpha too?
> In any other case you'd be editing the .config anyways.
No, that's a logic rathole down which I will not follow :)
You can make any argument along those lines command line usage is really
an art, not a science. Its a user interface, and that involves human
taste rather than logic.
I've been bouncing between architectures using ARCH= for years, and my
fingers and brain have been trained. It's just disappointing and a pain
to change this nice user interface that has served so well for years.
This is /not/ a cleanup, it's a user interface change.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-10 4:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-09 23:08 [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86" Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 01/11] x86: unification of cfufreq/Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86: start unification of arch/x86/Kconfig.* Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86: arch/x86/Kconfig.cpu unification Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86: add X86_32 dependency to i386 specific symbols in Kconfig.i386 Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86: add X86_64 dependency to x86_64 specific symbols in Kconfig.x86_64 Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 06/11] x86: copy x86_64 specific Kconfig symbols to Kconfig.i386 Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86: move all simple arch settings to Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86: move the rest of the menu's " Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86: enable "make ARCH=x86" Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 10/11] x86: drop backward compatibility symlinks to i386/boot and x86_64/boot Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 11/11] kbuild: sanity check the specified arch Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10 3:23 ` [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86" Jeff Garzik
2007-11-10 3:37 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-10 3:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10 4:05 ` Brian Gerst
2007-11-10 4:12 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-11-14 20:13 ` Roman Zippel
2007-11-10 7:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10 5:26 ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-10 8:21 ` Paul Mundt
2007-11-10 8:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-10 8:44 ` Paul Mundt
2007-11-10 20:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-10 20:46 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10 21:24 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-10 9:39 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10 10:32 ` david
2007-11-10 9:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10 9:26 ` Paul Mundt
2007-11-10 8:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-10 10:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10 15:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-12 11:59 ` Frans Pop
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2007-11-11 21:03 ` Bodo Eggert
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