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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86"
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:23:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47356A84.9020106@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071110075444.GA5707@uranus.ravnborg.org>

Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> Keeping ARCH=i386 and ARCH=x86_64 around is just a way to pretend
> this is two diffrent architectures which is no longer the case.

They _are_ different in the real world...  that's why

	make ARCH=i386

is so often used.


> Do we need a way to say "build a kernel that is 64 bit"?
> If we need this then we should look at the most intuitive way
> to say so and this should work across x86, powerpc and s390.
> 
> 	make 64BIT=y ARCH=x86
> 
> looks so much more intuitive. And it is generic.
> This is just a proposal.

Or the short and straightforward

	make ARCH=x86_64

to do the same thing (and incidentally what we've been doing up until 
this point).

Don't get so hung up on "architecture" and actually look at what people 
do _today_.

All other solutions proposed are simply _longer_ ways to do exact the 
same thing.  "more work for same outcome" isn't optimal.

	Jeff



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-10  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-09 23:08 [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86" Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 01/11] x86: unification of cfufreq/Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86: start unification of arch/x86/Kconfig.* Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86: arch/x86/Kconfig.cpu unification Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86: add X86_32 dependency to i386 specific symbols in Kconfig.i386 Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86: add X86_64 dependency to x86_64 specific symbols in Kconfig.x86_64 Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 06/11] x86: copy x86_64 specific Kconfig symbols to Kconfig.i386 Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86: move all simple arch settings to Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86: move the rest of the menu's " Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86: enable "make ARCH=x86" Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 10/11] x86: drop backward compatibility symlinks to i386/boot and x86_64/boot Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-09 23:20 ` [PATCH 11/11] kbuild: sanity check the specified arch Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10  3:23 ` [PATCH 0/11 v3] enable "make ARCH=x86" Jeff Garzik
2007-11-10  3:37   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-10  3:50   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10  4:05   ` Brian Gerst
2007-11-10  4:12     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-14 20:13       ` Roman Zippel
2007-11-10  7:54   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10  5:26     ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-10  8:21     ` Paul Mundt
2007-11-10  8:24       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-10  8:44         ` Paul Mundt
2007-11-10 20:35           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-10 20:46             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10 21:24             ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-10  9:39         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-10 10:32           ` david
2007-11-10  9:21       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10  9:26         ` Paul Mundt
2007-11-10  8:23     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-11-10 10:13       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-10 15:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-12 11:59 ` Frans Pop
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     [not found]             ` <9o640-1rJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-11-11 21:03               ` Bodo Eggert

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