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From: Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: david@lang.hm, "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <linux@treblig.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM ML <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	apparmor-dev <apparmor-dev@forge.novell.com>
Subject: Re: AppArmor Security Goal
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:58:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4738E8A2.1060004@crispincowan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071110235609.00958d87@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> but how can the system know if the directory the user wants to add is 
>> reasonable or not? what if the user says they want to store their 
>> documents in /etc?
>>     
> A more clear example is wanting to wrap a specific tool with temporary
> rules. Those rules would depend on the exact file being edited at this
> moment - something root cannot know in advance
> (although with apparmor I guess mv $my_file apparmour_magic.name ; foo;
> mv it back might work 8))
>   
If you have unconfined root privilege on an AppArmor box, then setting
up a temporary profile is trivial. As Alan suggests, you could just have
a standard profile for /home/crispin/bin/foo and fun with mv would
switch programs in and out of it. Or for more control, just draft a new
policy and load it; it just takes a few seconds to cp the profile for
something else and edit it a bit, and then load it.

The big difference between the former and latter is that the former is
inflexible (it either works or it doesn't) and the latter requires
privilege.

Crispin

-- 
Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.               http://crispincowan.com/~crispin
CEO, Mercenary Linux		   http://mercenarylinux.com/
	       Itanium. Vista. GPLv3. Complexity at work


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-08 21:33 AppArmor Security Goal Crispin Cowan
2007-11-10 21:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-10 21:24   ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-11  3:23     ` John Johansen
2007-11-10 21:28   ` david
2007-11-11  3:36     ` John Johansen
2007-11-10 22:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-11-10 22:11   ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-10 22:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-11-10 22:41       ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-10 22:57         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-10 23:14           ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-10 23:54             ` Alan Cox
2007-11-10 23:25         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-11-10 23:52           ` david
2007-11-10 23:47             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-11-10 23:56             ` Alan Cox
2007-11-11  1:27               ` david
2007-11-11  3:59                 ` John Johansen
2007-11-12 23:58               ` Crispin Cowan [this message]
2007-11-11  4:17             ` John Johansen
2007-11-11  4:50               ` david
2007-11-13  0:13             ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-11  7:02           ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
2007-11-12 23:50           ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-13  1:20             ` John Johansen
2007-11-11  2:17         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-11  3:55           ` John Johansen
2007-11-13  0:10           ` Joshua Brindle
2007-11-13  4:58             ` Casey Schaufler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-11  8:16 Rob Meijer
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2007-11-12 18:43             ` Bodo Eggert

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