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From: Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [9/10] per-zone-lru for memory cgroup
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:04:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47414A8F.8020807@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071119153549.d6f6f1de.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:15 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> =
>>> /cgroup/group_A/group_A_1
>>>             .  /group_A_2
>>>                /group_A_3
>>> (LRU(s) will be used for maintaining parent/child groups.)
>>>
>> The LRU's will be shared, my vision is
>>
>> 		LRU
>> 		^ ^
>> 		| |
>> 	Mem-----+ +----Mem
>>
>>
>> That two or more mem_cgroup's can refer to the same LRU list and have
>> their own resource counters. This setup will be used in the case
>> of a hierarchy, so that a child can share memory with its parent
>> and have it's own limit.
>>
>> The mem_cgroup will basically then only contain a reference
>> to the LRU list.
>>
> Hmm, interesting. 
> 
> Then, 
>    group_A_1's usage + group_A_2's usage + group_A_3's usgae < group_A's limit.
>    group_A_1, group_A_2, group_A_3 has its own limit.

Yes that is correct

> In plan.
> 
> I wonder if we want rich control functions, we need "share" or "priority" among
> childs. (but maybe this will be complicated one.)
> 

That would nice and the end goal of providing this feature. We also need
to provide soft-limits (more complex) and guarantees (with the kernel
memory controller coming in - nice to have, but not necessary for now)

> Thank you for explanation.
> 
> Regards,
> -Kame
> 

Thanks for helping out the memory controller.

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "containers@lists.osdl.org" <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"yamamoto@valinux.co.jp" <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [9/10] per-zone-lru for memory cgroup
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:04:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47414A8F.8020807@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071119153549.d6f6f1de.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:51:15 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>> =
>>> /cgroup/group_A/group_A_1
>>>             .  /group_A_2
>>>                /group_A_3
>>> (LRU(s) will be used for maintaining parent/child groups.)
>>>
>> The LRU's will be shared, my vision is
>>
>> 		LRU
>> 		^ ^
>> 		| |
>> 	Mem-----+ +----Mem
>>
>>
>> That two or more mem_cgroup's can refer to the same LRU list and have
>> their own resource counters. This setup will be used in the case
>> of a hierarchy, so that a child can share memory with its parent
>> and have it's own limit.
>>
>> The mem_cgroup will basically then only contain a reference
>> to the LRU list.
>>
> Hmm, interesting. 
> 
> Then, 
>    group_A_1's usage + group_A_2's usage + group_A_3's usgae < group_A's limit.
>    group_A_1, group_A_2, group_A_3 has its own limit.

Yes that is correct

> In plan.
> 
> I wonder if we want rich control functions, we need "share" or "priority" among
> childs. (but maybe this will be complicated one.)
> 

That would nice and the end goal of providing this feature. We also need
to provide soft-limits (more complex) and guarantees (with the kernel
memory controller coming in - nice to have, but not necessary for now)

> Thank you for explanation.
> 
> Regards,
> -Kame
> 

Thanks for helping out the memory controller.

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-19  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-16 10:11 [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [0/10] introduction KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found] ` <20071116191107.46dd523a.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-16 10:14   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [1/10] add scan_global_lru() macro KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:14     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071116191459.dcd71a3d.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17  9:03       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-17  9:03         ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-16 10:16   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [2/10] add nid/zid function for page_cgroup KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:16     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071116191635.2c141c38.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17  9:15       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-17  9:15         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <473EB141.4000005-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-19  1:37           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-19  1:37             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:17   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [3/10] add per zone active/inactive counter to mem_cgroup KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:17     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071116191744.d8e2b3a5.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17 16:07       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-17 16:07         ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-16 10:18   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [4/10] calculate mapped ratio for memory cgroup KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071116191844.319b2754.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17 16:12       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-17 16:12         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <473F12D6.8030607-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-19  1:42           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-19  1:42             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]             ` <20071119104246.d38de797.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22  8:34               ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2007-11-22  8:34                 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found]                 ` <20071122083421.49E681CEE8C-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22  8:40                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-22  8:40                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                     ` <20071122174015.c5ef61ae.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22  8:46                       ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2007-11-22  8:46                         ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found]                     ` <20071122084647.485981CEE98-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22 13:31                       ` kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A
2007-11-22 13:31                         ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2007-11-16 10:22   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [5/10] calculate active/inactive balance " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:22     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:23   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [6/10] remember reclaim priority " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:23     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:24   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [7/10] calculate reclaim scan number " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:24     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:25   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [8/10] changes in vmscan.c KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:25     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071116192536.0a9f2d61.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17 17:37       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-17 17:37         ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-16 10:26   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [9/10] per-zone-lru for memory cgroup KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:26     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071116192642.8c7f07c9.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17 17:51       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-17 17:51         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <473F2A1A.8000703-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-19  1:48           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-19  1:48             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]             ` <20071119104826.e4ba02ca.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-19  6:21               ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-19  6:21                 ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                 ` <47412B5B.80409-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-19  6:35                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-19  6:35                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                     ` <20071119153549.d6f6f1de.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-19  8:34                       ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2007-11-19  8:34                         ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-16 10:27   ` [RFC][PATCH] memory controller per zone patches take 2 [10/10] per-zone-lock " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-16 10:27     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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