From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernels prior to tsc sync cleanup
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:33:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4768BB43.1000609@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071218221930.GA26109@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> While the change mentions that it fixes a time warp bug, it also says
>> it should be rare. So clearly kvm smp tsc handing is buggy.
>> Ingo/Thomas, (or anybody else), do you have any insight as to what kvm
>> can be doing wrong to trigger this behavior?
>>
>
> hm. Those time warps were really small, due to the small imperfections
> in the "sync up all CPUs to the same moment and do a WRMSR to clear all
> their TSCs" mechanism. I.e. at most a few usec time warps. I really dont
> know how that should result in udevd hanging. Can you debug udevd in any
> way?
>
>
Adding debug didn't help. I'll try some sysrq keys to see what the
guest thinks is happening.
> so the only thing that KVM might be doing incorrectly here is the
> emulation of the WRMSR that clears the TSC of each vcpu?
>
By inspection, it is correct. Of course I may be missing something, so
I'll write a unit test for it. It should also be much slower than the
native wrmsr.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernels prior to tsc sync cleanup
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:33:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4768BB43.1000609@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071218221930.GA26109-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> While the change mentions that it fixes a time warp bug, it also says
>> it should be rare. So clearly kvm smp tsc handing is buggy.
>> Ingo/Thomas, (or anybody else), do you have any insight as to what kvm
>> can be doing wrong to trigger this behavior?
>>
>
> hm. Those time warps were really small, due to the small imperfections
> in the "sync up all CPUs to the same moment and do a WRMSR to clear all
> their TSCs" mechanism. I.e. at most a few usec time warps. I really dont
> know how that should result in udevd hanging. Can you debug udevd in any
> way?
>
>
Adding debug didn't help. I'll try some sysrq keys to see what the
guest thinks is happening.
> so the only thing that KVM might be doing incorrectly here is the
> emulation of the WRMSR that clears the TSC of each vcpu?
>
By inspection, it is correct. Of course I may be missing something, so
I'll write a unit test for it. It should also be much slower than the
native wrmsr.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-19 6:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-18 17:20 Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernels prior to tsc sync cleanup Avi Kivity
2007-12-18 17:20 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-18 22:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-18 22:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-19 6:33 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-12-19 6:33 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 11:19 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 11:19 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 11:39 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 14:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-19 14:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-19 14:27 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 15:32 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-12-19 15:32 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-12-19 15:41 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-12-20 10:34 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-12-20 10:34 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-12-19 16:55 ` [kvm-devel] " Amit Shah
2007-12-19 16:55 ` Amit Shah
2007-12-19 17:04 ` [kvm-devel] Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernelsprior " Dor Laor
2007-12-19 17:04 ` Dor Laor
2007-12-19 17:09 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 17:09 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 14:53 ` [kvm-devel] Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernels prior " Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 14:53 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 15:09 ` [kvm-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2007-12-19 15:21 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 15:21 ` Avi Kivity
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