Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Koen Kooi]

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Hi,

- --
gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs
* restructure patch directories
* update angstrom-preferred

Author: xjqian at openembedded.org

[snip]

conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
- --

I've seen a few updates to that file, but no mails about that. Let me
paste the top few lines of
conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc:

# This is a lock-down file for stability purposes
# If you change anything, send a mail to angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org
# stating the change and the reason.

So please send a mail, it's not hard....

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Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Junqian Gordon Xu]

On 01/28/2008 03:04 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
> I've seen a few updates to that file, but no mails about that. Let me
> paste the top few lines of
> conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc:
> 
> # This is a lock-down file for stability purposes
> # If you change anything, send a mail to angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org
> # stating the change and the reason.
> 
> So please send a mail, it's not hard....

Sorry, I thought angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc was still required 
by angstrom-2008.1.conf. But it isn't.

Things I've changed are:

navit: 0.0.1 to 0.0.3 (upstream major release, 0.0.3 built with speechd 
support, tested by CoreDump)
gnuplot: 4.2.0 to 4.2.2 (upstream bugfix release, tested on Tosa)
qpegps: 0.9.3.0 to 0.9.3.1 (upstream bugfix release, 0.9.3.0 segfaults)

Regards
Gordon

Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Paul Sokolovsky]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:04:41 +0100
Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl> wrote:

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> Hi,
> 
> - --
> gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs
> * restructure patch directories
> * update angstrom-preferred
> 
> Author: xjqian at openembedded.org
> 
> [snip]
> 
> conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
> - --
> 
> I've seen a few updates to that file, but no mails about that. Let me
> paste the top few lines of
> conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc:
> 
> # This is a lock-down file for stability purposes
> # If you change anything, send a mail to
> angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org # stating the change and the
> reason.

Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep, it is
referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so shouldn't it be
merged there or renamed to make it clear that it relates more to
openmoko?

Alternatively, maybe indeed rename it to 2008 and start using right
away, as there're funky downgrades happen in 2008 already (abiword).

Anyway, here's what I have in it (the first 2 are gpephone-related,
old versions are non-buildable).

--- conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
cb176be489c8cc84cc322cac2f96f85758f594fe +++
conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
444321ceb910033c367422f9e305c6a7dc45b0e8 @@ -886,7 +886,7 @@
PREFERRED_VERSION_libgeda ?= "20050820" PREFERRED_VERSION_libgc ?=
"6.7" PREFERRED_VERSION_libgcrypt ?= "1.2.3"
PREFERRED_VERSION_libgeda ?= "20050820"
-PREFERRED_VERSION_libgemwidget ?= "0.1"
+PREFERRED_VERSION_libgemwidget ?= "1.0" PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?=
"2.6.2" PREFERRED_VERSION_libglademm ?= "2.4.1"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libgmime ?= "2.1.7"
@@ -918,7 +918,7 @@ PREFERRED_VERSION_libhtml-mason-perl ?= 
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libhildonhelp ?= "1.9.1"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libhildonmime ?= "1.9.5"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libhtml-mason-perl ?= "1.35"
-PREFERRED_VERSION_libiac ?= "0.1"
+PREFERRED_VERSION_libiac ?= "1.0"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libice ?= "1.0.4"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libiconv ?= "1.11"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libid3 ?= "1.1"
@@ -946,7 +946,7 @@ PREFERRED_VERSION_libmikmod ?= "3.2.0-be
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libmatchbox ?= "1.9"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libmath-bigint-gmp-perl ?= "1.18"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libmikmod ?= "3.2.0-beta2"
-PREFERRED_VERSION_libmimedir ?= "0.3.1"
+PREFERRED_VERSION_libmimedir ?= "0.4.2"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libmng ?= "1.0.8"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libmodplug ?= "0.7"
 PREFERRED_VERSION_libmodule-build-perl ?= "0.2805"


> 
> So please send a mail, it's not hard....
> 

[]

Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[pHilipp Zabel]

On Jan 28, 2008 1:48 PM, Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:04:41 +0100
> Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl> wrote:
>
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> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > - --
> > gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs
> > * restructure patch directories
> > * update angstrom-preferred
> >
> > Author: xjqian at openembedded.org
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
> > - --
> >
> > I've seen a few updates to that file, but no mails about that. Let me
> > paste the top few lines of
> > conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc:
> >
> > # This is a lock-down file for stability purposes
> > # If you change anything, send a mail to
> > angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org # stating the change and the
> > reason.
>
> Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
> removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep, it is
> referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so shouldn't it be
> merged there or renamed to make it clear that it relates more to
> openmoko?
>
> Alternatively, maybe indeed rename it to 2008 and start using right
> away, as there're funky downgrades happen in 2008 already (abiword).

Or maybe fix those funky downgrades? (Or do both.)
I'm not convinced keeping DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" in some recipes
forever just because some legacy distro once used that mechanism to
'select' an older version, when the newer version clearly works (or at
least is selected by angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc).

> Anyway, here's what I have in it (the first 2 are gpephone-related,
> old versions are non-buildable).
>
> --- conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
> cb176be489c8cc84cc322cac2f96f85758f594fe +++
> conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc
> 444321ceb910033c367422f9e305c6a7dc45b0e8 @@ -886,7 +886,7 @@
> PREFERRED_VERSION_libgeda ?= "20050820" PREFERRED_VERSION_libgc ?=
> "6.7" PREFERRED_VERSION_libgcrypt ?= "1.2.3"
> PREFERRED_VERSION_libgeda ?= "20050820"
> -PREFERRED_VERSION_libgemwidget ?= "0.1"
> +PREFERRED_VERSION_libgemwidget ?= "1.0" PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?=
> "2.6.2" PREFERRED_VERSION_libglademm ?= "2.4.1"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libgmime ?= "2.1.7"
> @@ -918,7 +918,7 @@ PREFERRED_VERSION_libhtml-mason-perl ?=
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libhildonhelp ?= "1.9.1"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libhildonmime ?= "1.9.5"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libhtml-mason-perl ?= "1.35"
> -PREFERRED_VERSION_libiac ?= "0.1"
> +PREFERRED_VERSION_libiac ?= "1.0"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libice ?= "1.0.4"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libiconv ?= "1.11"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libid3 ?= "1.1"
> @@ -946,7 +946,7 @@ PREFERRED_VERSION_libmikmod ?= "3.2.0-be
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libmatchbox ?= "1.9"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libmath-bigint-gmp-perl ?= "1.18"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libmikmod ?= "3.2.0-beta2"
> -PREFERRED_VERSION_libmimedir ?= "0.3.1"
> +PREFERRED_VERSION_libmimedir ?= "0.4.2"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libmng ?= "1.0.8"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libmodplug ?= "0.7"
>  PREFERRED_VERSION_libmodule-build-perl ?= "0.2805"
>
>
> >
> > So please send a mail, it's not hard....
> >
>
> []
>
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regards
Philipp

Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Graeme Gregory]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:48:21 +0200
Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
> removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep, it
> is referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so shouldn't it
> be merged there or renamed to make it clear that it relates more to
> openmoko?
> 
I shall rename it later when I get a chance to indicate only OpenMoko
use it.

Angstrom can then go forward with new prefferred versions for 2008.1

Graeme

Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Monday 28 January 2008 16:40:22 Graeme Gregory wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:48:21 +0200
>
> Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
> > removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep, it
> > is referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so shouldn't it
> > be merged there or renamed to make it clear that it relates more to
> > openmoko?
>
> I shall rename it later when I get a chance to indicate only OpenMoko
> use it.

How about making it generic-preferred-versions.inc hence resurrecting 
the "generic" distribution until we have the default versions configured 
enough, so that you can build without setting a DISTRO?

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Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Paul Sokolovsky]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:20:34 +0100
"pHilipp Zabel" <philipp.zabel@gmail.com> wrote:

[]
> > Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
> > removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep,
> > it is referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so
> > shouldn't it be merged there or renamed to make it clear that it
> > relates more to openmoko?
> >
> > Alternatively, maybe indeed rename it to 2008 and start using right
> > away, as there're funky downgrades happen in 2008 already (abiword).
> 
> Or maybe fix those funky downgrades? (Or do both.)

Sure, I'm all for it too ;-).

> I'm not convinced keeping DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" in some recipes
> forever just because some legacy distro once used that mechanism to
> 'select' an older version, when the newer version clearly works (or at
> least is selected by angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc).

It would be nice that someone did some explicit confidence testing
before removing DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1", though in this case the fact
that Angstrom 2007.12 shipped with it should be enough ;-).

[]

Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Koen Kooi]

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Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef:
| On Monday 28 January 2008 16:40:22 Graeme Gregory wrote:
|> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:48:21 +0200
|>
|> Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
|>> Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
|>> removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep, it
|>> is referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so shouldn't it
|>> be merged there or renamed to make it clear that it relates more to
|>> openmoko?
|> I shall rename it later when I get a chance to indicate only OpenMoko
|> use it.
|
| How about making it generic-preferred-versions.inc hence resurrecting
| the "generic" distribution until we have the default versions configured
| enough, so that you can build without setting a DISTRO?

You can't build without setting a distro since among other things,
SRCREV is broken if you do that.
Besides not being named 'generic', what are the arguments against making
angstrom the 'generic' distro in OE? It's the closest thing of showing
off all features of OE *and* doing it the OE-way.

regards,

Koen

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Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Monday 28 January 2008 19:34:59 Koen Kooi wrote:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef:
> | On Monday 28 January 2008 16:40:22 Graeme Gregory wrote:
> |> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:48:21 +0200
> |>
> |> Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
> |>> Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
> |>> removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep, it
> |>> is referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so shouldn't it
> |>> be merged there or renamed to make it clear that it relates more to
> |>> openmoko?
> |>
> |> I shall rename it later when I get a chance to indicate only OpenMoko
> |> use it.
> |
> | How about making it generic-preferred-versions.inc hence resurrecting
> | the "generic" distribution until we have the default versions configured
> | enough, so that you can build without setting a DISTRO?
>
> You can't build without setting a distro since among other things,
> SRCREV is broken if you do that.
> Besides not being named 'generic', what are the arguments against making
> angstrom the 'generic' distro in OE? It's the closest thing of showing
> off all features of OE *and* doing it the OE-way.

It's the message it sends. By all means I want to keep the difference between 
OE as a distribution building environment and the actual distributions. If we 
lose this distinction OE becomes OE/Angstrom and people will think OE is just 
about/for one distribution -- which it is not.

-- 
Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer | IT-Freelancer | http://www.vanille-media.de

Renamed: Generic distro

[Philip Balister]

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Koen Kooi wrote:

> Besides not being named 'generic', what are the arguments against making
> angstrom the 'generic' distro in OE? It's the closest thing of showing
> off all features of OE *and* doing it the OE-way.

At the risk of putting words in to Mickey's mouth, my view a generic 
distro is a generic.conf that contains the absolute minimum number of 
lines required to build an image successfully. Maybe we could call it 
minimal distro and remove generic?

Angstrom has features, generic does not.

The key is not to define the generic distro clearly and not let it 
feature creap towards Angstrom. (Kind of like minimal-image trying to 
get less minimal based on peoples viewpoint of what a minimal-image is)

Philip

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Re: [oe-commits] org.oe.dev gnuplot: update 4.2.2, add 4.3.0+cvs

[Paul Sokolovsky]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:34:59 +0100
Koen Kooi <k.kooi@student.utwente.nl> wrote:

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> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef:
> | On Monday 28 January 2008 16:40:22 Graeme Gregory wrote:
> |> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:48:21 +0200
> |>
> |> Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> wrote:
> |>> Hm, but why that file is in .dev branch at all? What was idea of
> |>> removing 2007 .conf and leaving preferred-versions? Doing a grep,
> it |>> is referenced only by angstrom-2007-for-openmoko.inc, so
> shouldn't it |>> be merged there or renamed to make it clear that it
> relates more to |>> openmoko?
> |> I shall rename it later when I get a chance to indicate only
> OpenMoko |> use it.
> |
> | How about making it generic-preferred-versions.inc hence
> resurrecting | the "generic" distribution until we have the default
> versions configured | enough, so that you can build without setting a
> DISTRO?
> 
> You can't build without setting a distro since among other things,
> SRCREV is broken if you do that.
> Besides not being named 'generic', what are the arguments against
> making angstrom the 'generic' distro in OE? It's the closest thing of
> showing off all features of OE *and* doing it the OE-way.

IMHO, we shouldn't ditch "generic" distro. It's purpose should be to
enforce as little policy as possible. Thus, it will be good base for
adhoc, overlay, foreign, experiment distros. For example, openwrt-sdk
distro already uses generic-uclibc (which in turn uses generic) in such
way.

> 
> regards,
> 
> Koen
> 

[]

Re: Renamed: Generic distro

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Monday 28 January 2008 19:59:42 Philip Balister wrote:
> Koen Kooi wrote:
> > Besides not being named 'generic', what are the arguments against making
> > angstrom the 'generic' distro in OE? It's the closest thing of showing
> > off all features of OE *and* doing it the OE-way.
>
> At the risk of putting words in to Mickey's mouth, my view a generic
> distro is a generic.conf that contains the absolute minimum number of
> lines required to build an image successfully. Maybe we could call it
> minimal distro and remove generic?
>
> Angstrom has features, generic does not.
>
> The key is not to define the generic distro clearly and not let it
> feature creap towards Angstrom. (Kind of like minimal-image trying to
> get less minimal based on peoples viewpoint of what a minimal-image is)

Yes, this is the other major reason to keep generic. Yes, renaming it to 
minimal sounds good to me.

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