From: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <tomof@acm.org>
Cc: James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, bart.vanassche@gmail.com,
vst@vlnb.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp,
scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, stgt-devel@lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:07:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47A889AB.9090301@wpkg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080205223740L.tomof@acm.org>
FUJITA Tomonori schrieb:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100
> Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org> wrote:
>
>> James Bottomley schrieb:
>>
>>> These are both features being independently worked on, are they not?
>>> Even if they weren't, the combination of the size of SCST in kernel plus
>>> the problem of having to find a migration path for the current STGT
>>> users still looks to me to involve the greater amount of work.
>> I don't want to be mean, but does anyone actually use STGT in
>> production? Seriously?
>>
>> In the latest development version of STGT, it's only possible to stop
>> the tgtd target daemon using KILL / 9 signal - which also means all
>> iSCSI initiator connections are corrupted when tgtd target daemon is
>> started again (kernel upgrade, target daemon upgrade, server reboot etc.).
>
> I don't know what "iSCSI initiator connections are corrupted"
> mean. But if you reboot a server, how can an iSCSI target
> implementation keep iSCSI tcp connections?
The problem with tgtd is that you can't start it (configured) in an
"atomic" way.
Usually, one will start tgtd and it's configuration in a script (I
replaced some parameters with "..." to make it shorter and more readable):
tgtd
tgtadm --op new ...
tgtadm --lld iscsi --op new ...
However, this won't work - tgtd goes immediately in the background as it
is still starting, and the first tgtadm commands will fail:
# bash -x tgtd-start
+ tgtd
+ tgtadm --op new --mode target ...
tgtadm: can't connect to the tgt daemon, Connection refused
tgtadm: can't send the request to the tgt daemon, Transport endpoint is
not connected
+ tgtadm --lld iscsi --op new --mode account ...
tgtadm: can't connect to the tgt daemon, Connection refused
tgtadm: can't send the request to the tgt daemon, Transport endpoint is
not connected
+ tgtadm --lld iscsi --op bind --mode account --tid 1 ...
tgtadm: can't find the target
+ tgtadm --op new --mode logicalunit --tid 1 --lun 1 ...
tgtadm: can't find the target
+ tgtadm --op bind --mode target --tid 1 -I ALL
tgtadm: can't find the target
+ tgtadm --op new --mode target --tid 2 ...
+ tgtadm --op new --mode logicalunit --tid 2 --lun 1 ...
+ tgtadm --op bind --mode target --tid 2 -I ALL
OK, if tgtd takes longer to start, perhaps it's a good idea to sleep a
second right after tgtd?
tgtd
sleep 1
tgtadm --op new ...
tgtadm --lld iscsi --op new ...
No, it is not a good idea - if tgtd listens on port 3260 *and* is
unconfigured yet, any reconnecting initiator will fail, like below:
end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7045192
Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 880649
lost page write due to I/O error on sdb
Aborting journal on device sdb.
ext3_abort called.
EXT3-fs error (device sdb): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal
Remounting filesystem read-only
end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7045880
Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 880735
lost page write due to I/O error on sdb
end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 6728
Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 841
lost page write due to I/O error on sdb
end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7045192
Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 880649
lost page write due to I/O error on sdb
end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 7045880
Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 880735
lost page write due to I/O error on sdb
__journal_remove_journal_head: freeing b_frozen_data
__journal_remove_journal_head: freeing b_frozen_data
Ouch.
So the only way to start/restart tgtd reliably is to do hacks which are
needed with yet another iSCSI kernel implementation (IET): use iptables.
iptables <block iSCSI traffic>
tgtd
sleep 1
tgtadm --op new ...
tgtadm --lld iscsi --op new ...
iptables <unblock iSCSI traffic>
A bit ugly, isn't it?
Having to tinker with a firewall in order to start a daemon is by no
means a sign of a well-tested and mature project.
That's why I asked how many people use stgt in a production environment
- James was worried about a potential migration path for current users.
--
Tomasz Chmielewski
http://wpkg.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-05 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-23 14:22 Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel Bart Van Assche
2008-01-23 14:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-23 17:11 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-01-29 20:42 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-29 21:31 ` Roland Dreier
2008-01-29 23:32 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-01-30 1:15 ` [Scst-devel] " Vu Pham
2008-01-30 8:38 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-30 10:56 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-01-30 11:40 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-01-30 13:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-30 13:54 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-01-30 13:54 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-01-31 7:48 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-31 13:25 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-01-31 14:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-31 14:44 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-01-31 15:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-01-31 16:25 ` [Scst-devel] " Joe Landman
2008-01-31 17:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-31 17:13 ` Joe Landman
2008-01-31 18:12 ` David Dillow
2008-02-01 11:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-01 11:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-01 12:25 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-01-31 17:14 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-01-31 17:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-31 18:15 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-01 9:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-01 8:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-01 10:39 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-01 11:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-01 12:05 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-01 13:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-01 14:36 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-01-30 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-30 16:50 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-02 15:32 ` Pete Wyckoff
2008-02-05 17:01 ` Erez Zilber
2008-02-06 12:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-06 16:45 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-06 17:06 ` Roland Dreier
2008-02-18 9:43 ` Erez Zilber
2008-02-18 11:01 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-20 7:34 ` Erez Zilber
2008-02-20 8:41 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-30 11:18 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-01-30 8:29 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-01-30 16:22 ` James Bottomley
2008-01-30 17:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-05 7:14 ` [Scst-devel] " Tomasz Chmielewski
2008-02-05 13:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 13:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 16:07 ` Tomasz Chmielewski [this message]
2008-02-05 16:21 ` Ming Zhang
2008-02-05 16:43 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 16:43 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 17:09 ` Matteo Tescione
2008-02-05 17:09 ` Matteo Tescione
2008-02-06 1:29 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-06 2:01 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-01-30 11:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 12:27 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 13:53 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-04 17:00 ` David Dillow
2008-02-04 17:08 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-05 16:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-05 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-04 15:30 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 16:25 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 17:06 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 17:16 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 17:25 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 17:56 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 18:22 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 18:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 18:54 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 18:59 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-05 19:13 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-06 18:07 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-07 13:13 ` [Scst-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2008-02-07 13:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-07 13:45 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-07 22:51 ` david
2008-02-08 10:37 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-09 7:40 ` david
2008-02-08 11:33 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-08 14:36 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-08 23:53 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-15 15:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-07 15:38 ` [Scst-devel] " Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-07 20:37 ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-08 10:32 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-09 7:32 ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-11 10:02 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-08 11:53 ` [Scst-devel] " Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-08 14:42 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-09 0:00 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-04 18:49 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 19:06 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 19:19 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-04 20:06 ` [Scst-devel] " 4news
2008-02-04 20:06 ` 4news
2008-02-04 20:24 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 21:01 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-04 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-04 22:00 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 22:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-04 23:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-05 0:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-05 1:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-05 8:38 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-05 17:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-06 10:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-06 14:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-05 13:05 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-02-05 18:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-05 18:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-05 19:01 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-04 22:43 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-04 17:30 ` Douglas Gilbert
2008-02-05 2:07 ` [Scst-devel] " Chris Weiss
2008-02-05 14:19 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 14:19 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-04 22:59 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 23:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 23:12 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 23:12 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 23:16 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-04 23:16 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-05 18:37 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-04 23:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-04 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-05 19:01 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-05 19:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-05 19:21 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-06 0:11 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-06 1:43 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-12 16:05 ` [Scst-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2008-02-13 3:44 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-13 6:18 ` CONFIG_SLUB and reproducable general protection faults on 2.6.2x Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-13 16:37 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-06 0:17 ` Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-06 0:48 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-06 0:51 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-02-05 0:07 ` Matt Mackall
2008-02-05 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-05 0:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-05 0:45 ` Matt Mackall
2008-02-05 4:43 ` [Scst-devel] " Matteo Tescione
2008-02-05 4:43 ` Matteo Tescione
2008-02-05 5:07 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 13:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 13:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-02-05 19:00 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-02-05 17:10 ` Erez Zilber
2008-02-05 19:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-02-05 19:02 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-09 7:44 [Scst-devel] " Luben Tuikov
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