From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm-ppc-devel <kvm-ppc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-ppc-devel] [kvm-devel] upstream PowerPC qemu breakage
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:03:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B2963A.503@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B0D268.1000909@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> In the short term we'll have to fork a working userspace, since we're in
>> the middle of some other stuff (such as real guest IO, which I think is
>> pretty important :) .
>>
>> Long term, one option is to try to define a new qemu target that
>> completely bypasses the code generation parts of qemu. Anthony did that
>> for x86 once, but there are at least a couple sticking points; not sure
>> how long it will take. This is probably the best long-term way to avoid
>> this situation in the future.
>>
>
> This is very easy to do and is probably the best long term and short
> term solution. If you introduce a new target type (ppcemb-kvm) and
> drop the TCG/dyngen bits from the build for it, then you should be
> okay. It will require a small stub file but there's not more than a
> dozen or so functions required for that.
>
> I think this would be generally useful for other architectures too
> (like ia64, s390, and even x86). At least ia64 and s390 aren't going
> to have functioning translation bits so having a -kvm target really
> makes a lot more sense than faking out a -softmmu target.
>
I don't think this is the right fix. A machine type (if I understand it
correctly) refers to a combination of a target processor,
chipset/busses, and devices, not to how they are implemented in qemu.
I believe a better fix is to introduce an orthogonal
--without-cpu-emulation.
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm-ppc-devel <kvm-ppc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: upstream PowerPC qemu breakage
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:03:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B2963A.503@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B0D268.1000909@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> In the short term we'll have to fork a working userspace, since we're in
>> the middle of some other stuff (such as real guest IO, which I think is
>> pretty important :) .
>>
>> Long term, one option is to try to define a new qemu target that
>> completely bypasses the code generation parts of qemu. Anthony did that
>> for x86 once, but there are at least a couple sticking points; not sure
>> how long it will take. This is probably the best long-term way to avoid
>> this situation in the future.
>>
>
> This is very easy to do and is probably the best long term and short
> term solution. If you introduce a new target type (ppcemb-kvm) and
> drop the TCG/dyngen bits from the build for it, then you should be
> okay. It will require a small stub file but there's not more than a
> dozen or so functions required for that.
>
> I think this would be generally useful for other architectures too
> (like ia64, s390, and even x86). At least ia64 and s390 aren't going
> to have functioning translation bits so having a -kvm target really
> makes a lot more sense than faking out a -softmmu target.
>
I don't think this is the right fix. A machine type (if I understand it
correctly) refers to a combination of a target processor,
chipset/busses, and devices, not to how they are implemented in qemu.
I believe a better fix is to introduce an orthogonal
--without-cpu-emulation.
--
Any sufficiently difficult bug is indistinguishable from a feature.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-13 7:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-11 21:55 [kvm-ppc-devel] upstream PowerPC qemu breakage Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-11 21:55 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-11 22:55 ` [kvm-ppc-devel] [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-02-11 22:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-02-13 7:03 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-02-13 7:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-12 10:45 ` [kvm-ppc-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-02-12 10:45 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-12 18:56 ` [kvm-ppc-devel] " Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-12 18:56 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-13 6:58 ` [kvm-ppc-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-02-13 6:58 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-16 0:26 ` [kvm-ppc-devel] " Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-16 0:26 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-16 8:47 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-16 8:47 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-18 19:38 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-18 19:38 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-18 20:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-18 20:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-18 21:03 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-18 21:03 ` Hollis Blanchard
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