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From: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	matthltc@us.ibm.com, cmm@us.ibm.com,
	ltp-list@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] Scaling msgmni to the amount of lowmem
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:08:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B9835A.3060507@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B94D8C.8040605@bull.net>

Nadia Derbey wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:16:47 +0100 Nadia.Derbey@bull.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>> [PATCH 01/08]
>>>
>>> This patch computes msg_ctlmni to make it scale with the amount of 
>>> lowmem.
>>> msg_ctlmni is now set to make the message queues occupy 1/32 of the 
>>> available
>>> lowmem.
>>>
>>> Some cleaning has also been done for the MSGPOOL constant: the msgctl 
>>> man page
>>> says it's not used, but it also defines it as a size in bytes (the code
>>> expresses it in Kbytes).
>>>
>>
>>
>> Something's wrong here.  Running LTP's msgctl08 (specifically:
>> ltp-full-20070228) cripples the machine.  It's a 4-way 4GB x86_64.
>>
>> http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/config-x.txt
>> http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/dmesg-x.txt
>>
>> Normally msgctl08 will complete in a second or two.  With this patch I
>> don't know how long it will take to complete, and the machine is horridly
>> bogged down.  It does recover if you manage to kill msgctl08.  Feels like
>> a terrible memory shortage, but there's plenty of memory free and it 
>> isn't
>> swapping.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Before the patchset, msgctl08 used to be run with the old msgmni value: 
> 16. Now it is run with a much higher msgmni value (1746 in my case), 
> since it scales to the memory size.
> When I call "msgctl08 100000 16" it completes fast.
> 
> Doing the follwing on the ref kernel:
> echo 1746 > /proc/sys/kernel/msgmni
> msgctl08 100000 1746
> 
> makes th test block too :-(
> 
> Will check to see where the problem comes from.
> 

Well, actually, the test does not block, it only takes much much more 
time to be executed:

doing this:
date; ./msgctl08 100000 XXX; date


gives us the following results:
XXX           16   32   64   128   256   512   1024   1746
time(secs)     2    4    8    16    32    64    132    241

XXX is the # of msg queues to be created = # of processes to be forked 
as readers = # of processes to be created as writers
time is approximative since it is obtained by a "date" before and after.

XXX used to be 16 before the patchset  ---> 1st column
     --> 16 processes forked as reader
     --> + 16 processes forked as writers
     --> + 16 msg queues
XXX = 1746 (on my victim) after the patchset ---> last column
     --> 1746 reader processes forked
     --> + 1746 writers forked
     --> + 1746 msg queues created

The same tests on the ref kernel give approximatly the same results.

So if we don't want this longer time to appear as a regression, the LTP 
should be changed:
1) either by setting the result of get_max_msgqueues() as the MSGMNI 
constant (16) (that would be the best solution in my mind)
2) or by warning the tester that it may take a long time to finish.

There would be 3 tests impacted:

kernel/syscalls/ipc/msgctl/msgctl08.c
kernel/syscalls/ipc/msgctl/msgctl09.c
kernel/syscalls/ipc/msgget/msgget03.c

Cc-ing ltp mailing list ...

Regards,
Nadia



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From: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	matthltc@us.ibm.com, cmm@us.ibm.com,
	ltp-list@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] Scaling msgmni to the amount of lowmem
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:08:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B9835A.3060507@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B94D8C.8040605@bull.net>

Nadia Derbey wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:16:47 +0100 Nadia.Derbey@bull.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>> [PATCH 01/08]
>>>
>>> This patch computes msg_ctlmni to make it scale with the amount of 
>>> lowmem.
>>> msg_ctlmni is now set to make the message queues occupy 1/32 of the 
>>> available
>>> lowmem.
>>>
>>> Some cleaning has also been done for the MSGPOOL constant: the msgctl 
>>> man page
>>> says it's not used, but it also defines it as a size in bytes (the code
>>> expresses it in Kbytes).
>>>
>>
>>
>> Something's wrong here.  Running LTP's msgctl08 (specifically:
>> ltp-full-20070228) cripples the machine.  It's a 4-way 4GB x86_64.
>>
>> http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/config-x.txt
>> http://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/dmesg-x.txt
>>
>> Normally msgctl08 will complete in a second or two.  With this patch I
>> don't know how long it will take to complete, and the machine is horridly
>> bogged down.  It does recover if you manage to kill msgctl08.  Feels like
>> a terrible memory shortage, but there's plenty of memory free and it 
>> isn't
>> swapping.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Before the patchset, msgctl08 used to be run with the old msgmni value: 
> 16. Now it is run with a much higher msgmni value (1746 in my case), 
> since it scales to the memory size.
> When I call "msgctl08 100000 16" it completes fast.
> 
> Doing the follwing on the ref kernel:
> echo 1746 > /proc/sys/kernel/msgmni
> msgctl08 100000 1746
> 
> makes th test block too :-(
> 
> Will check to see where the problem comes from.
> 

Well, actually, the test does not block, it only takes much much more 
time to be executed:

doing this:
date; ./msgctl08 100000 XXX; date


gives us the following results:
XXX           16   32   64   128   256   512   1024   1746
time(secs)     2    4    8    16    32    64    132    241

XXX is the # of msg queues to be created = # of processes to be forked 
as readers = # of processes to be created as writers
time is approximative since it is obtained by a "date" before and after.

XXX used to be 16 before the patchset  ---> 1st column
     --> 16 processes forked as reader
     --> + 16 processes forked as writers
     --> + 16 msg queues
XXX = 1746 (on my victim) after the patchset ---> last column
     --> 1746 reader processes forked
     --> + 1746 writers forked
     --> + 1746 msg queues created

The same tests on the ref kernel give approximatly the same results.

So if we don't want this longer time to appear as a regression, the LTP 
should be changed:
1) either by setting the result of get_max_msgqueues() as the MSGMNI 
constant (16) (that would be the best solution in my mind)
2) or by warning the tester that it may take a long time to finish.

There would be 3 tests impacted:

kernel/syscalls/ipc/msgctl/msgctl08.c
kernel/syscalls/ipc/msgctl/msgctl09.c
kernel/syscalls/ipc/msgget/msgget03.c

Cc-ing ltp mailing list ...

Regards,
Nadia


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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-11 14:16 [PATCH 0/8] Change default MSGMNI tunable to scale with lowmem (v3) Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 1/8] Scaling msgmni to the amount of lowmem Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
     [not found]   ` <20080211141813.354484000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-16  5:59     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16  5:59       ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16  5:59       ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-18  9:19       ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-18  9:19         ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]         ` <47B94D8C.8040605-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-18 13:08           ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-18 13:08         ` Nadia Derbey [this message]
2008-02-18 13:08           ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-19  8:50           ` [LTP] " Subrata Modak
2008-02-19  8:50             ` Subrata Modak
     [not found]             ` <1203411055.4612.5.camel-NRFfyExJdYpgXGGE5LP+UZlqa2bBAFbm0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-19 17:16               ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-19 17:16             ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]               ` <47BB0EDC.5000002-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-19 22:16                 ` Matt Helsley
2008-02-20  9:44                 ` Subrata Modak
2008-02-19 22:16               ` Matt Helsley
2008-02-19 22:16                 ` Matt Helsley
2008-02-21  8:39                 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-21  8:39                   ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]                 ` <1203459418.7408.39.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-21  8:39                   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-21 12:36                   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-21 12:36                 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-21 12:36                   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-21 13:02                   ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]                     ` <47BD7648.5010309-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-21 13:39                       ` Subrata Modak
2008-02-21 13:39                     ` Subrata Modak
2008-02-21 13:39                       ` Subrata Modak
     [not found]                       ` <1203601178.4604.18.camel-NRFfyExJdYpgXGGE5LP+UZlqa2bBAFbm0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-22  6:25                         ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-22  6:25                       ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-22  8:41                         ` Subrata Modak
2008-02-22  8:41                           ` Subrata Modak
     [not found]                         ` <47BE6AD0.6070309-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-22  8:41                           ` Subrata Modak
     [not found]                   ` <47BD705A.9020309-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-21 13:02                     ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-20  9:44               ` Subrata Modak
2008-02-20  9:44                 ` Subrata Modak
     [not found]           ` <47B9835A.3060507-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-19  8:50             ` Subrata Modak
     [not found]       ` <20080215215916.8566d337.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-18  9:19         ` Nadia Derbey
2008-04-29 20:28     ` Tony Luck
2008-04-29 20:28   ` Tony Luck
2008-04-29 20:28     ` Tony Luck
2008-05-05  8:45     ` Nadia Derbey
2008-05-05  8:45       ` Nadia Derbey
2008-05-06 16:42       ` Luck, Tony
2008-05-06 16:42         ` Luck, Tony
2008-05-06 18:05         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-05-06 18:05           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-05-07  5:37           ` Nadia Derbey
2008-05-07  5:37             ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]             ` <48214007.7050800-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-07 13:17               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-05-07 13:17             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-05-07 13:17               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-05-07 18:12               ` Matt Helsley
2008-05-07 18:12                 ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]               ` <20080507131712.GA8580-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-07 18:12                 ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]           ` <20080506180527.GA8315-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-07  5:37             ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]         ` <1FE6DD409037234FAB833C420AA843EC014392F9-7XlYjKTK0pM64kNsxIetb7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-06 18:05           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-05-07  5:13           ` Nadia Derbey
2008-05-07  5:13         ` Nadia Derbey
2008-05-07  5:13           ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]       ` <481EC917.6070808-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-06 16:42         ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]     ` <12c511ca0804291328v2f0b87csd0f2cf3accc6ad00-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-05  8:45       ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 2/8] Scaling msgmni to the number of ipc namespaces Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 3/8] Defining the slab_memory_callback priority as a constant Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 4/8] Recomputing msgmni on memory add / remove Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 5/8] Invoke the ipcns notifier chain as a work item Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 6/8] Recomputing msgmni on ipc namespace creation/removal Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 7/8] Do not recompute msgmni anymore if explicitely set by user Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 20:24   ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 20:24     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12  9:32     ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]       ` <47B167AF.6010008-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-12  9:44         ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12  9:44           ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12  9:44           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]           ` <20080212014444.8bc3791b.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-12 15:15             ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-12 15:15           ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-12 15:15             ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]             ` <47B1B7F4.8080009-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-12 19:44               ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 19:44                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 19:44                 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                 ` <20080212114439.e08085f1.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-14 11:47                   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-14 11:47                 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-14 11:47                   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-12  9:45         ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-12  9:45           ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]     ` <20080211122408.5008902f.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-12  9:32       ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]   ` <20080211141816.094061000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-11 20:24     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` [PATCH 8/8] Re-enable msgmni automatic recomputing msgmni if set to negative Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-02-11 14:16 ` Nadia.Derbey
2008-02-11 14:16   ` Nadia.Derbey
     [not found]   ` <20080211141816.520049000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-11 20:27     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 20:27   ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 20:27     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20080211122748.64e7bc36.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-12 11:38       ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-12 11:38     ` Nadia Derbey
2008-02-12 11:38       ` Nadia Derbey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-20 14:28 [PATCH 1/8] Scaling msgmni to the amount of lowmem Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-20 14:45 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-05-20 14:56   ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-20 14:56     ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-21 10:47   ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-21 10:47     ` Michael Kerrisk

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