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From: Andrew Buehler <abuehler.kernel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Oliver Pinter
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	Kernel development list
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	Andrew Morton
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	Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: USB regression (and other failures) in 2.6.2[45]* - mostly resolved
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:27:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BC7101.4060501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802201213260.5630-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On 2/20/2008 12:15 PM, Alan Stern wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Andrew Buehler wrote:

>> Hmm. One thing which just sprang to mind, in the stab-in-the-dark
>> category: in 2.6.24.2, launching the program on some machines gave
>> warnings along the lines of "this program is using a deprecated
>> ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO" (which I naturally cannot do
>> since it's closed and I don't have the source),
> 
> You can ask the program's author to update it.

It's provided by Novell, with whom I have no direct contact and am not
presently authorized to speak on behalf of my organization. From what I
have read about the history of their support on this program and these
discs, I do not expect that they would be willing to support it except
in environments which they provide in monolithic form; it would be
possible for me to copy an updated version of the program out of such an
environment to use in my own customized one, but I am not certain that
they have even created such an updated version, and in any case
obtaining it would almost certainly require buying the latest version of
Novell ZENworks - which my organization is certainly not prepared to do
at the present time.

In other words: I don't think that's likely to be practical in the
present instance. If you have reason to believe otherwise (past positive
experience with Novell, for instance), I'd be glad to hear it.

>> I'm not sure I expressed myself clearly. I do not think the problem
>> is with the different kernels. I think the problem is with the
>> different configurations. I am asking if there are any established
>> techniques for comparing differences between config files from
>> widely different kernels.
> 
> Not as far as I know.

Oh, well... thanks anyway.

Is there any place (aside from maybe the kernel changelog, which
contains a whole lot - if not several lots - of unrelated information)
where I could find a list of config-symbol name additions, changes,
deletions and meaning changes by version or by date? That would at least
let me build a mapping between the symbols in the older config and the
ones in the new one, which is about where I would have to start.

-- 
    Andrew Buehler

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Buehler <abuehler.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Pinter <oliver.pntr@gmail.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	SCSI development list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: USB regression (and other failures) in 2.6.2[45]* - mostly resolved
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:27:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BC7101.4060501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802201213260.5630-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On 2/20/2008 12:15 PM, Alan Stern wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Andrew Buehler wrote:

>> Hmm. One thing which just sprang to mind, in the stab-in-the-dark
>> category: in 2.6.24.2, launching the program on some machines gave
>> warnings along the lines of "this program is using a deprecated
>> ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO" (which I naturally cannot do
>> since it's closed and I don't have the source),
> 
> You can ask the program's author to update it.

It's provided by Novell, with whom I have no direct contact and am not
presently authorized to speak on behalf of my organization. From what I
have read about the history of their support on this program and these
discs, I do not expect that they would be willing to support it except
in environments which they provide in monolithic form; it would be
possible for me to copy an updated version of the program out of such an
environment to use in my own customized one, but I am not certain that
they have even created such an updated version, and in any case
obtaining it would almost certainly require buying the latest version of
Novell ZENworks - which my organization is certainly not prepared to do
at the present time.

In other words: I don't think that's likely to be practical in the
present instance. If you have reason to believe otherwise (past positive
experience with Novell, for instance), I'd be glad to hear it.

>> I'm not sure I expressed myself clearly. I do not think the problem
>> is with the different kernels. I think the problem is with the
>> different configurations. I am asking if there are any established
>> techniques for comparing differences between config files from
>> widely different kernels.
> 
> Not as far as I know.

Oh, well... thanks anyway.

Is there any place (aside from maybe the kernel changelog, which
contains a whole lot - if not several lots - of unrelated information)
where I could find a list of config-symbol name additions, changes,
deletions and meaning changes by version or by date? That would at least
let me build a mapping between the symbols in the older config and the
ones in the new one, which is about where I would have to start.

-- 
    Andrew Buehler

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-20 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-15 21:45 USB regression (and other failures) in 2.6.2[45]* Andrew Buehler
     [not found] ` <47B60812.4050206-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-16 14:32   ` Oliver Pinter
2008-02-16 14:32     ` Oliver Pinter
     [not found]     ` <6101e8c40802160632y2723ccc3xb0940b9aebfa20f5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-16 15:20       ` Alan Stern
2008-02-16 15:20         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-16 16:46         ` Andrew Buehler
2008-02-16 17:16           ` Alan Stern
2008-02-16 17:16             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802161207160.3828-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-16 21:33               ` Andrew Buehler
2008-02-16 21:33                 ` Andrew Buehler
2008-02-16 23:11                 ` Alan Stern
2008-02-16 23:11                   ` Alan Stern
2008-02-17  1:12                   ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                     ` <47B78A08.1020502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-17  3:35                       ` Alan Stern
2008-02-17  3:35                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-17 16:21                         ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802162210110.13745-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-19 20:35                           ` USB regression (and other failures) in 2.6.2[45]* - mostly resolved Andrew Buehler
2008-02-19 20:35                             ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                             ` <47BB3DA1.8040001-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-20 15:50                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-20 15:50                                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802201048410.4828-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-20 17:06                                   ` Andrew Buehler
2008-02-20 17:06                                     ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                                     ` <47BC5E01.1050902-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-20 17:15                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-02-20 17:15                                         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802201213260.5630-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-20 18:27                                           ` Andrew Buehler [this message]
2008-02-20 18:27                                             ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                                             ` <47BC7101.4060501-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-20 19:29                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-20 19:29                                                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802201428390.7056-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-21 16:05                                                   ` Andrew Buehler
2008-02-21 16:05                                                     ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                                                     ` <47BDA141.70806-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-21 16:36                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-02-21 16:36                                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-21 17:17                                                         ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 19:43                                                           ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]                                                             ` <47BDD455.9090909-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-21 20:02                                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-21 20:02                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-02-17  4:10                     ` [OT] GMail (was USB regression (and other failures)...) Joseph Fannin
     [not found]                 ` <47B756B5.7070901-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-17 10:55                   ` USB regression (and other failures) in 2.6.2[45]* Sergey Vlasov
2008-02-17 10:55                     ` Sergey Vlasov
2008-02-17  7:20           ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-17 16:17             ` Andrew Buehler
     [not found]               ` <47B85E04.7090200-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-17 16:20                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-17 16:20                   ` Paul Jackson

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