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From: Max Krasnyanskiy <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/4] CPUSET driven CPU isolation
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:48:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C6F3DB.8070309@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080228075010.GA28781@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> 
>> My vision on the direction we should take wrt cpu isolation.
>>
>> Next on the list would be figuring out a nice solution to the 
>> workqueue flush issue.
> 
> nice work Peter, i find this "system sets" extension to cpusets a much 
> more elegant (and much more future-proof) solution than the proposed 
> spreadout of the limited hack of isolcpus/cpu_isolated_map. It 
> concentrates us on a single API and on a single mechanism to handle 
> isolation matters. (be that for clustering/supercomputing or real-time 
> purposes)
Come on Ingo. You make it sounds like it's radically different solution.
At the end of the day we have a bitmap that represents which CPUs can be used 
for the kernel stuff. How is that different ?
I was saying all along that cpusets is a higher level API and was discussing 
or trying to discuss (people were ignoring my questions) ways to integrate it.

> Thanks for insisting on using cpusets for this!
> 
> i've queued up your patches in sched-devel.git, and lets make sure this 
> has no side-effects on existing functionality. (it shouldnt)
Hmm, that was easy. Not a single ack. Even the core part is not complete yet. 
I pointed out several issues. Like the fact that it does not provide full 
isolation because it does not move timers, does not handle workqueues.
I did not even get a chance to test this stuff properly and see if it actually 
solves the usecase I was solving with my patches.
_Obviously_ we could not have taken my tested solution and evolved it in the 
direction people wanted to see it evolve, ie integration with the cpusets :(.

My main concern is that it introduces a whole new set of notifiers that 
perform similar functions to what CPU hotplut already does.

Max

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-28 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-27 22:21 [RFC/PATCH 0/4] CPUSET driven CPU isolation Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 22:21 ` [RFC/PATCH 1/4] sched: remove isolcpus Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 23:57   ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28 10:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-28 19:36       ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-27 22:21 ` [RFC/PATCH 2/4] cpuset: system sets Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 23:39   ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28  1:53     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-27 23:52   ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28  0:11     ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28  0:29       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-02-28  1:45         ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28  3:41           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-02-28  4:58             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-27 22:21 ` [RFC/PATCH 3/4] genirq: system set irq affinities Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-28  0:10   ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28 10:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 22:21 ` [RFC/PATCH 4/4] kthread: system set kthread affinities Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 23:38 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/4] CPUSET driven CPU isolation Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28 10:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-28 17:33     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28  7:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28  8:08   ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28  9:08     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28  9:17       ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28  9:32         ` David Rientjes
2008-02-28 10:12           ` David Rientjes
2008-02-28 10:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-28 17:37             ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 21:24               ` David Rientjes
2008-02-28 22:46                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 23:00                   ` David Rientjes
2008-02-29  0:16                     ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29  1:05                       ` David Rientjes
2008-02-29  3:34                         ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29  4:00                           ` David Rientjes
2008-02-29  6:53                             ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 10:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28 17:47           ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 20:11           ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-28 20:13             ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 20:26               ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-28 20:27                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-28 20:45                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-28 20:23       ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-28 17:48   ` Max Krasnyanskiy [this message]
2008-02-29  8:31   ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-29  8:36     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-29  9:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 18:06       ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-28 12:12 ` Mark Hounschell
2008-02-28 19:57   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-02-29 18:55 ` [RFC/PATCH] cpuset: cpuset irq affinities Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-29 19:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 20:52     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-29 21:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-29 21:20         ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-03 11:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-03 17:36             ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-03 17:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-03 18:10                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-03 18:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04  7:35                     ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-04 11:06                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 19:52                         ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-03-05  1:11                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-05  8:37                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-05  8:50                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-05 12:35                                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-05 12:43                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-05 17:44                                     ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-05 19:17                               ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-03-06 13:47                               ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-06 15:21                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-07  3:40                                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-07  6:39                                     ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-07  8:47                                       ` Paul Menage
2008-03-07 14:57                                         ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-03 18:41                   ` Paul Menage
2008-03-03 18:52                     ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-04  5:26                       ` Paul Menage
2008-03-04  6:15                         ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-04  6:21                           ` Paul Menage
2008-03-04  6:26                             ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-04  6:34                               ` Paul Menage
2008-03-04  6:51                                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 20:55   ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 21:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-29 21:29       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 21:32       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 21:42       ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-02-29 22:00         ` Paul Jackson
2008-02-29 21:53       ` Paul Jackson
2008-03-02  5:18   ` Christoph Hellwig

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