From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>,
"Krzysztof Halasa" <khc@pm.waw.pl>, "Zan Lynx" <zlynx@acm.org>,
"Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz" <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.u>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] pata: "I do not think it means, what you think it means."
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:58:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D006A1.8070000@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080306111304.GK531@sci.fi>
Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:33:29AM +0100, Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
>> Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org> writes:
>>
>>> In my experience what they needed was proper cooling. I have a 3ware
>>> RAID-5 array of 4 120 GB DeskStar drives still working.
>> I think the largest "deathstars" (75GXP?) were 75 GB.
>
> AFAIK there were basically two series of deathstars. The original
> DTLA<something> and the more recent IC35<something>. The IC35 series
> were bigger (120GB is the most common size I've seen for those).
> Proper cooling and firmware upgrade usually fixed the deathstarness on
> both series. I still have some of both, not in active use for a year or
> two but still working. As a strange coincidence I was just pulling out
> some old data from them yesterday.
..
The original Deathstar ailment had nothing to do with firmware or cooling.
But rather, a bad batch of chips that IBM had the misfortune to use a lot of.
The chips would grow tiny internal whiskers over a period of 2+ years,
and eventually short circuit themselves.
My last one died here just a few weeks ago, after sitting on the shelf
for nearly all of it's life. Never more than perhaps 40 power-on hours total,
and never enough to get very warm.
Cheers
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From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>,
"Krzysztof Halasa" <khc@pm.waw.pl>, "Zan Lynx" <zlynx@acm.org>,
"Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz" <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, alan@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] pata: "I do not think it means, what you think it means."
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:58:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D006A1.8070000@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080306111304.GK531@sci.fi>
Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:33:29AM +0100, Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
>> Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org> writes:
>>
>>> In my experience what they needed was proper cooling. I have a 3ware
>>> RAID-5 array of 4 120 GB DeskStar drives still working.
>> I think the largest "deathstars" (75GXP?) were 75 GB.
>
> AFAIK there were basically two series of deathstars. The original
> DTLA<something> and the more recent IC35<something>. The IC35 series
> were bigger (120GB is the most common size I've seen for those).
> Proper cooling and firmware upgrade usually fixed the deathstarness on
> both series. I still have some of both, not in active use for a year or
> two but still working. As a strange coincidence I was just pulling out
> some old data from them yesterday.
..
The original Deathstar ailment had nothing to do with firmware or cooling.
But rather, a bad batch of chips that IBM had the misfortune to use a lot of.
The chips would grow tiny internal whiskers over a period of 2+ years,
and eventually short circuit themselves.
My last one died here just a few weeks ago, after sitting on the shelf
for nearly all of it's life. Never more than perhaps 40 power-on hours total,
and never enough to get very warm.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-06 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-04 23:16 [patch 3/3] pata: "I do not think it means, what you think it means." akpm
2008-03-05 1:34 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 1:30 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-05 1:54 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-05 13:21 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 14:39 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-05 16:13 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 16:34 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-05 16:46 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 16:55 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-05 17:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 18:33 ` Zan Lynx
2008-03-06 1:33 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-06 11:13 ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-03-06 14:58 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2008-03-06 14:58 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 15:00 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 15:00 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 22:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
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