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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <tomof@acm.org>
Cc: jens.axboe@oracle.com, fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, bharrosh@panasas.com,
	efault@gmx.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	bzolnier@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] blk: missing add of padded bytes to io completion byte count
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:06:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D1E696.5060308@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080308000718H.tomof@acm.org>

FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:07:23 +0900
> Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> If we want the use paradigm shared between block and driver, then I
>>>>> think the best approach is to keep all the bios the same (so not adjust
>>>>> for padding), but do adjust in the blk_rq_map_sg().  That way we have
>>>>> the padding and draining unwind information by comparing with the bio.
>>>> Adjusting only sg in blk_rq_map_sg (like drain) looks much
>>>> better. This works with libata for me.
>>> Looks like a much better solution to me. Anyone have any valid
>>> objections against moving the padding to the sg map time?
>> Not necessarily objections but some concerns.
>>
>> * As completion is done in bio terms, it makes completion from LLDs a
>> bit cumbersome, but this is unavoidable if we break sum(bio) == sum(sg).
> 
> What do you mean? How does sub(bio) affect LLDs?

LLDs which loop over sg's trying to complete rq incrementally will see
rq going away sooner than it expected.

>> * I've been wondering why we are not using sg chain / table or whatever
>> directly in bios and maybe rq_map_sg can go away in future.
> 
> You mean that LLDs use bios directly? For me, sg and bio have very
> different objectives and it's a clean layer separation.

Actually the other way, block layer use sg instead of bio_vec in bio.
Layer separation doesn't necessarily require copying about the same
information to differently formatted data structure.  I'm not sure it
will be a clean win tho.  Requests hang longer in scheduler queue and
and bio_vec is smaller and scatterlist.

The thing is that, to me, blk_rq_map_sg() doesn't really look necessary,
it can be done just as well when the request is fetched from the queue
by block driver. (continued below...)

>> How about separating out the padding / draining adjustment into a
>> separate interface?  Say, blk_rq_apply_extra() and blk_rq_undo_extra()
>> and make it the responsibility of the LLD which requested
>> padding/draining to apply and undo the adjustments?  It can undo the
>> adjustments when it returns the the request to its upper layer.  If rq
>> completion is handled by upper layer, it will do the right thing.  If rq
>> completion is handled by LLD, it can see the bio it wants to see.
> 
> If possible, I'd like to avoid creating APIs for them. I think that
> the current approach is much better than such APIs.

And, so, I'm not too sure whether putting more mechanisms into it is a
good idea.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-08  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-21  8:42 regression: CD burning (k3b) went broke Mike Galbraith
2008-02-22  7:32 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-23  7:42   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-24  7:54     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-26  9:48       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-26 13:36         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-26 23:08           ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-27  0:46             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-27  2:58               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-27  2:24             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-27  6:00               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-27  7:07                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-28  7:43                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-28  8:20                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-28  8:50                       ` [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling Tejun Heo
2008-02-28 15:35                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-28 15:46                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-29 16:47                             ` James Bottomley
2008-02-29 20:11                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-01  6:17                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-01 15:19                                   ` James Bottomley
2008-03-02 14:52                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-02 14:52                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-02 18:46                                     ` Mike Christie
2008-03-03  3:27                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-03  2:40                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03  3:59                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03  4:09                                         ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03  6:08                                           ` [PATCH 1/2] " Tejun Heo
2008-03-03  6:10                                             ` [PATCH] block: separate out padding from alignment Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 18:27                                               ` James Bottomley
2008-03-03  8:26                                           ` [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03  9:21                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 12:17                                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 12:17                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 13:38                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 13:50                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 13:50                                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 13:55                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 14:01                                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 14:01                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 14:22                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 14:52                                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 22:44                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  2:11                                                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  2:32                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  8:53                                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  8:59                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04  9:06                                                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  9:22                                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  9:30                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  9:35                                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04  9:40                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  9:46                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 12:37                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 12:39                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 12:43                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 12:58                                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 13:03                                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 14:25                                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 18:17                                                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 18:29                                                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 18:35                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 18:45                                                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 18:49                                                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 18:54                                                                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 19:26                                                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 19:28                                                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 16:04                                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2008-03-04 18:46                                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 17:34                                                                                 ` walt
2008-03-04 17:34                                                                                   ` walt
2008-03-04 17:59                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 19:18                                                                                     ` walt
2008-03-04 19:42                                                                                   ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2008-03-04 12:40                                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 12:45                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 13:30                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04 13:50                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 16:17                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 16:42                                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 18:26                                                                                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-04 18:35                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 18:27                                                                                         ` James Bottomley
2008-03-04 18:33                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 18:45                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 19:25                                                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 19:33                                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 19:34                                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 19:19                                                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04 19:19                                                                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04 23:33                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 23:54                                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05  0:26                                                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-05  0:44                                                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-06  4:56                                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-06  5:02                                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05 10:16                                                                                               ` [PATCH] blk: missing add of padded bytes to io completion byte count Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-05 12:28                                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-05 12:33                                                                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-05 12:46                                                                                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-05 12:48                                                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-05 13:45                                                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05 13:51                                                                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-05 14:08                                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05 15:21                                                                                                           ` James Bottomley
2008-03-06  4:41                                                                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-06 13:41                                                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-07  0:07                                                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-07 15:07                                                                                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-08  1:06                                                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-03-20 12:54                                                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-05 14:46                                                                                                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-05 15:11                                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-06  5:02                                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  9:29                                                                       ` [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling Tejun Heo

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