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From: Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Menage <menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Make res_counter hierarchical
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:23:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D65680.4090106@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080311183940.11695e41.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:46:58 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>> Paul Menage wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:13 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
>>> <kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>  or remove all relationship among counters of *different* type of resources.
>>>>  user-land-daemon will do enough jobs.
>>>>
>>> Yes, that would be my preferred choice, if people agree that
>>> hierarchically limiting overall virtual memory isn't useful. (I don't
>>> think I have a use for it myself).
>>>
>> Virtual limits are very useful. I have a patch ready to send out.
>> They limit the amount of paging a cgroup can do (virtual limit - RSS limit).
>> Some times end users want to set virtual limit == RSS limit, so that the cgroup
>> OOMs on cross the RSS limit.
>>
> I have no objection to adding virtual limit itself.
> (It can be considered as extended ulimit.)
> 
> But if you'd like to add relationship between virtual-limit/memory-usage-limit,
> please take care to make it clear that relationship is reaseonable.
> 

No, I don't want to add a relationship, just plain virtual memory limits and let
the system administrators determine what works for them.



-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Make res_counter hierarchical
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:23:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D65680.4090106@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080311183940.11695e41.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:46:58 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> Paul Menage wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:13 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
>>> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>  or remove all relationship among counters of *different* type of resources.
>>>>  user-land-daemon will do enough jobs.
>>>>
>>> Yes, that would be my preferred choice, if people agree that
>>> hierarchically limiting overall virtual memory isn't useful. (I don't
>>> think I have a use for it myself).
>>>
>> Virtual limits are very useful. I have a patch ready to send out.
>> They limit the amount of paging a cgroup can do (virtual limit - RSS limit).
>> Some times end users want to set virtual limit == RSS limit, so that the cgroup
>> OOMs on cross the RSS limit.
>>
> I have no objection to adding virtual limit itself.
> (It can be considered as extended ulimit.)
> 
> But if you'd like to add relationship between virtual-limit/memory-usage-limit,
> please take care to make it clear that relationship is reaseonable.
> 

No, I don't want to add a relationship, just plain virtual memory limits and let
the system administrators determine what works for them.



-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-11  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-07 15:32 [PATCH 2/2] Make res_counter hierarchical Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-07 15:32 ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found] ` <47D16004.7050204-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-08  4:45   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-08  4:45     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20080308134514.434f38f4.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  8:15       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-11  8:15         ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]         ` <47D63FBC.1010805-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  8:32           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11  8:32             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]             ` <20080311173225.937935eb.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  8:38               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-11  8:38                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <47D6451A.7090807-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  9:03                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-11  9:03                     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-11  9:07                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11  9:07                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11  8:57           ` Paul Menage
2008-03-11  8:57             ` Paul Menage
     [not found]             ` <6599ad830803110157u71fe6c3cse125d0202610413b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  9:13               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11  9:13                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                 ` <20080311181325.c0bf6b90.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  9:11                   ` Paul Menage
2008-03-11  9:11                     ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                     ` <6599ad830803110211u1cb48874l30aa75d21dc2b23-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  9:16                       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-11  9:16                         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                         ` <47D64E0A.3090907-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  9:39                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11  9:39                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                             ` <20080311183940.11695e41.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  9:53                               ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-03-11  9:53                                 ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                                 ` <47D65680.4090106-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 10:03                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11 10:03                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-03-11 15:56                           ` Paul Menage
2008-03-11 15:56                             ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                             ` <6599ad830803110856j5333f032n2e26fb51111a839c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:59                               ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-11 15:59                                 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-08 19:06   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-08 19:06     ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <47D2E3C2.8050402-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  8:17       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-11  8:17         ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]         ` <47D64037.3000705-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  8:24           ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-11  8:24             ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]             ` <47D641B8.5000701-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11  8:40               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-11  8:40                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-12 23:05   ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-12 23:05     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found]     ` <20080312230541.CB9021E703D-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-12 23:36       ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-12 23:36         ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-13  8:56       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-13  8:56         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-02 15:26   ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <47F3A5BF.1080301-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-03 12:26       ` Pavel Emelyanov

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