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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	taka@valinux.co.jp, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][2/3] Account and control virtual address space allocations
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:28:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E002CB.4090900@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1205860276.8872.20.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>



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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	taka@valinux.co.jp, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][2/3] Account and control virtual address space allocations
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:28:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E002CB.4090900@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1205860276.8872.20.camel@nimitz.home.sr71.net>

Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 06:44 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote: 
>>> If you're going to do this, I think you need a couple of phases.  
>>>
>>> 1. update the vm_(un)acct_memory() functions to take an mm
>> There are other problems
>>
>> 1. vm_(un)acct_memory is conditionally dependent on VM_ACCOUNT. Look at
>> shmem_(un)acct_size for example
> 
> Yeah, but if VM_ACCOUNT isn't set, do you really want the controller
> accounting for them?  It's there for a reason. :)
> 

We are trying to account for virtual memory usage. Please see
http://lwn.net/Articles/5016/ to see what VM_ACCOUNT does or
Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting. We want to account and control virtual
memory usage and not necessarily implement overcommit accounting

> The shmem_acct_size() helpers look good.  I wonder if we should be using
> that kind of things more generically.
> 

Yes, it is well written. I wish there were more such abstractions, but it does
not help us.

>> 2. These routines are not called from all contexts that we care about (look at
>> insert_special_mapping())
> 
> Could you explain why "we" care about it and why it isn't accounted for
> now?

It is accounted for in total_vm and that's why we care about :)

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-19 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-16 17:29 [RFC][0/3] Virtual address space control for cgroups Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:29 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:29 ` [RFC][1/3] Add user interface for virtual address space control Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:29   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:30 ` [RFC][2/3] Account and control virtual address space allocations Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:30   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  2:02   ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  2:02     ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  2:57     ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  2:57       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  3:03       ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  3:03         ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17 11:36   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-17 11:36     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-17 12:29     ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 12:29       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 12:40       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-17 12:40         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-17 12:51         ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 12:51           ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 13:01           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-17 13:01             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-17 14:39             ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 14:39               ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 16:53   ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-17 16:53     ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-18  1:14     ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-18  1:14       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-18 17:11       ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-18 17:11         ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-18 17:58         ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-03-18 17:58           ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 23:35   ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-17 23:35     ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-18  1:10     ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-18  1:10       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:30 ` [RFC][3/3] Update documentation for virtual address space control Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 17:30   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 18:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-16 18:32     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-17  1:33     ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  1:33       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-16 23:26 ` [RFC][0/3] Virtual address space control for cgroups Paul Menage
2008-03-16 23:26   ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  1:47   ` Li Zefan
2008-03-17  1:47     ` Li Zefan
2008-03-17  1:57     ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  1:57       ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  5:08       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  5:08         ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  5:22         ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  5:22           ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17 15:15           ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 15:15             ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  1:50   ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  1:50     ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  1:55     ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  1:55       ` Paul Menage
2008-03-17  3:12       ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17  3:12         ` Balbir Singh

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