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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	lguest <lguest-mnsaURCQ41sdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:55:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E26CC1.8080900@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E20A35.2000600-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>>    Just finished my prototype of inter-guest virtio, using networking as an 
>> example.  Each guest mmaps the other's address space and uses a FIFO for 
>> notifications.
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Isn't that a security hole (hole? chasm)?  If the two guests can access 
> each other's memory, they might as well be just one guest, and 
> communicate internally.
>   

Each guest's host userspace mmaps the other guest's address space.  The 
userspace then does a copy on both the tx and rx paths.

Conceivably, this could be done as a read-only mapping so that each 
guest userspace copies only the rx packets.  That's about as secure as 
you're going to get with this approach I think.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> My feeling is that the host needs to copy the data, using dma if 
> available.  Another option is to have one guest map the other's memory 
> for read and write, while the other guest is unprivileged.  This allows 
> one privileged guest to provide services for other, unprivileged guests, 
> like domain 0 or driver domains in Xen.
>
>   

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20  5:59 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:05 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:54 ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found] ` <200803201659.14344.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:05   ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:22     ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] lguest: Encapsulate Guest memory ready for dealing with other Guests Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <200803201705.44422.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:22       ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:36         ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] lguest: separate out virtqueue info from device info Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:40           ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] lguest: ignore bad virtqueues Rusty Russell
     [not found]           ` <200803201736.01883.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:40             ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:45               ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] lguest: Inter-guest networking Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:45               ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:36         ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] lguest: separate out virtqueue info from device info Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:04       ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:32         ` [Lguest] " Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-20 15:07         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <47E26EE1.5030706-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:32           ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-20 15:07           ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:24             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:24             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:12           ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 23:46             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 23:46             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23  9:11               ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-23  9:11               ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 22:12         ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  8:16     ` [Lguest] " Tim Post
2008-03-20  8:16     ` Tim Post
2008-03-20 14:07       ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-21  0:29       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]       ` <1206000960.6873.124.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:07         ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-21  0:29         ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:04     ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20  6:54   ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 13:55     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <47E20A35.2000600-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 13:55       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-03-20 14:27         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <47E26CC1.8080900-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:27           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47E27461.4090404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:39               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:36                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:36                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:52                       ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                       ` <47E28482.9010501-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 15:52                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 14:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:14     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 22:14     ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23 12:05     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-23 12:05     ` Rusty Russell

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