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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	lguest <lguest-mnsaURCQ41sdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:27:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E27461.4090404@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E26CC1.8080900-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>> Rusty Russell wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>    Just finished my prototype of inter-guest virtio, using 
>>> networking as an example.  Each guest mmaps the other's address 
>>> space and uses a FIFO for notifications.
>>>
>>>       
>>
>> Isn't that a security hole (hole? chasm)?  If the two guests can 
>> access each other's memory, they might as well be just one guest, and 
>> communicate internally.
>>   
>
> Each guest's host userspace mmaps the other guest's address space.  
> The userspace then does a copy on both the tx and rx paths.
>

Well, that's better security-wise (I'd still prefer to avoid it, so we 
can run each guest under a separate uid), but then we lose performance wise.

> Conceivably, this could be done as a read-only mapping so that each 
> guest userspace copies only the rx packets.  That's about as secure as 
> you're going to get with this approach I think.
>

Maybe we can terminate the virtio queue in the host kernel as a pipe, 
and splice pipes together.

That gives us guest-guest and guest-process communications, and if you 
use aio the kernel can use a dma engine for the copy.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20  5:59 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:05 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <200803201659.14344.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:05   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:22     ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] lguest: Encapsulate Guest memory ready for dealing with other Guests Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <200803201705.44422.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:22       ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:36         ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] lguest: separate out virtqueue info from device info Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:36         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]           ` <200803201736.01883.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:40             ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] lguest: ignore bad virtqueues Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:45               ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] lguest: Inter-guest networking Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:45               ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:40           ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] lguest: ignore bad virtqueues Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:04       ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:32         ` [Lguest] " Paul TBBle Hampson
     [not found]         ` <47E26EE1.5030706-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:32           ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-20 15:07           ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:24             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:24             ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:12           ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 23:46             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 23:46             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23  9:11               ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-23  9:11               ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:07         ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 22:12         ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  8:16     ` [Lguest] " Tim Post
2008-03-20  8:16     ` Tim Post
2008-03-20 14:07       ` Paul TBBle Hampson
     [not found]       ` <1206000960.6873.124.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:07         ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-21  0:29         ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-21  0:29       ` [Lguest] " Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:04     ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20  6:54   ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 13:55     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <47E20A35.2000600-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 13:55       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:27         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <47E26CC1.8080900-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:27           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-03-20 14:39             ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <47E27461.4090404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:39               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:05                   ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:36                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:36                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                       ` <47E28482.9010501-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 15:52                         ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:52                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 22:14     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 22:14     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:11   ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23 12:05     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-23 12:05     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:54 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori

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