From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: DCCP conntrack/NAT
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:26:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FB807A.3000605@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47F64C0D.5080700@trash.net>
Gerrit Renker wrote:
>>> I have a question regarding the original direction - currently it is
>>> linked to the client which actively initiates a connection. DCCP
>>> suffers from the problem that peer-to-peer NAT traversal is not
>>> really possible just because of this client/server division. There
>>> is a proposal which effects a pseudo simultaneous open, by letting
>>> the server send an initiation packet, to fix this problem (TCP
>>> peer-to-peer NAT traversal also favours simultaneous-open). I wonder
>>> if this would be possible, but it is really a future-work question.
>>>
>> Yes, that should be possible. But how does the server know that
>> the client intends to initiate a connection?
>>
>>
> This is outside the actual NAT implementation, via out-of-band, e.g. using SIP
> or Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis).
>
> In this regard, the role-reversal patch will be a great help, since it
> will allow support for peer-to-peer NAT traversal (i.e. NAT-ed server).
This sounds like it would already work when using the netfilter
SIP helper. But the DCCP_LISTEN method is a lot simpler.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Gerrit Renker <gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk>,
dccp@vger.kernel.org,
Netfilter Development Mailinglist
<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: DCCP conntrack/NAT
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:26:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FB807A.3000605@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080408133841.GA31174@gerrit.erg.abdn.ac.uk>
Gerrit Renker wrote:
>>> I have a question regarding the original direction - currently it is
>>> linked to the client which actively initiates a connection. DCCP
>>> suffers from the problem that peer-to-peer NAT traversal is not
>>> really possible just because of this client/server division. There
>>> is a proposal which effects a pseudo simultaneous open, by letting
>>> the server send an initiation packet, to fix this problem (TCP
>>> peer-to-peer NAT traversal also favours simultaneous-open). I wonder
>>> if this would be possible, but it is really a future-work question.
>>>
>> Yes, that should be possible. But how does the server know that
>> the client intends to initiate a connection?
>>
>>
> This is outside the actual NAT implementation, via out-of-band, e.g. using SIP
> or Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis).
>
> In this regard, the role-reversal patch will be a great help, since it
> will allow support for peer-to-peer NAT traversal (i.e. NAT-ed server).
This sounds like it would already work when using the netfilter
SIP helper. But the DCCP_LISTEN method is a lot simpler.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-08 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-04 15:41 DCCP conntrack/NAT Patrick McHardy
2008-04-04 15:41 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-04 19:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-04-04 19:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-04-05 10:09 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-04-05 10:09 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-04-05 10:12 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-04-05 10:12 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-04-06 0:28 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-06 0:28 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-07 21:50 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-04-07 21:50 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-04-07 22:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-07 22:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 9:27 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-04-08 9:27 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-04-08 10:30 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 10:30 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 10:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 10:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 11:18 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 11:18 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 13:38 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-04-08 13:38 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-04-08 14:12 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 14:12 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 14:26 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2008-04-08 14:26 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 16:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-04-08 16:21 ` Patrick McHardy
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