From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
jesper.juhl@gmail.com, tilman@imap.cc, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
rjw@sisk.pl, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:19:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FF6555.50004@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804110849520.28360@wrl-59.cs.helsinki.fi>
Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Mark Lord wrote:
>
>> David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:27:14 -0400
>>>
>>>> It's *your* bug -- you signed off on the commit.
>>> I sign off on basically every networking commit, does that mean I have
>>> to fix every networking bug and every networking bug is "mine"?
>> ..
>>
>> Absolutely, though to a varying degree. That's the responsibility
>> that goes with the role of a subsystem maintainer. I once had
>> such a role, and gave it up when I felt I could no longer keep up.
>> You still keep refering to it as "your (my) bug".
>> It's not. I had nothing to do with it, other than stumbling over it.
>
> This bug is perfect example where bisect clearly was useful :-). Nobody
> knew whose bug it actually was until your bisect gave directions.
>
>> When people stumble over a libata bug, I look hard to see if my code
>> could possibly cause it. Jeff looks even harder, because he's the
>> current subsystem dude for libata.
>>
>> I never suggest a user search through a mountain of unrelated commits
>> for something I've screwed up on.
>
> But it is ok for you to ask an innocent net developer to do that (even
> with your terms as I hadn't signed off _anything_ related to that one),
> hmm?
>
> ...You had this pretty demanding tone earlier:
>
>> Or I can ignore it, like the net developers, since I have a workaround.
>> And then we'll see what other apps are broken upon 2.6.25 final release.
..
That's not demanding, that's quite relaxed. I had a good workaround,
and didn't really care any more at that point. Just though it was rather
odd that none of the developers seemed interested in tracking it down.
I offered tons of help, gave it, and said I didn't have time for a full
bisect at that juncture.
For that, I get repeatedly slammed by the netdev folks.
Even after I put aside *paid* work to submit to your demands.
Next time around, I won't bother reporting bugs to you folks,
that's for damned sure.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-11 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-08 23:02 [Bug #10391] 2.6.25-rc7/8: Another resume regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-09 4:49 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 4:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Mark Lord
2008-04-09 13:37 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 14:06 ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 16:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 17:16 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:27 ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:30 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-09 19:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 19:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 22:29 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 0:02 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 0:37 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-10 13:52 ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10 15:15 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:58 ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10 1:22 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 15:07 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:20 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-10 22:09 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 22:46 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 22:52 ` Charlie Brady
2008-04-10 23:02 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 23:05 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:10 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:14 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:32 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:51 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-11 0:16 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:24 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:27 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 0:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 1:23 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 6:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 13:19 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2008-04-11 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 14:59 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 15:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 18:07 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 21:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 8:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-12 9:49 ` David Miller
2008-04-13 18:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:51 ` Sergio Luis
2008-04-13 19:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:16 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 22:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 22:27 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 23:23 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-12 5:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12 7:06 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 22:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 19:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:27 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-13 18:40 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-13 19:18 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-13 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 19:47 ` Reporting bugs and bisection David Miller
2008-04-13 20:21 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 20:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 22:24 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Stephen Clark
2008-04-13 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:51 ` david
2008-04-14 0:36 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14 4:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 5:39 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 6:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 6:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 6:43 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 7:23 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 7:43 ` Al Viro
2008-04-14 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 8:30 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14 9:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 5:25 ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35 ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54 ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18 ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15 9:33 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 9:54 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 2:34 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 3:53 ` david
2008-04-16 9:06 ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41 ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16 4:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17 ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04 ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 20:38 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01 ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 10:18 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 10:29 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:10 ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 9:58 ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-14 10:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 10:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 21:53 ` about bisections (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 22:30 ` about bisections David Miller
2008-04-15 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11 0:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 1:08 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:26 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 0:29 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 2:59 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-11 3:18 ` [PATCH 2.6.25] net sockets: fix timewait namespace regression Mark Lord
2008-04-11 3:51 ` David Miller
2008-04-11 7:50 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-10 20:46 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-10 21:05 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 21:43 ` Ilpo Järvinen
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2008-04-12 8:41 devzero
2008-04-13 20:22 ` Adrian Bunk
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