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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:29:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ve2kviex.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080414101813.GB14549@elte.hu> (Ingo Molnar's message of "Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:18:13 +0200")

Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:
>
> doing _kernel_ bisection is totally hard at the moment - it disrupts the 
> user way too much and causes many hours of work for most users. 

It depends. Sometimes the bisection can be done in qemu/kvm/xen or
similar tools.  At least if the problem is not too hardware
dependent. And more and more people actually run in such environments.

I can also do it faster with autoboot or nfs root/powerswitch, but 
admittedly that's a very specialized setup most people don't have.

Still I agree with your basic point that it should be only
last resort.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-14 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-08 23:02 [Bug #10391] 2.6.25-rc7/8: Another resume regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-09  4:49 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09  4:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Mark Lord
2008-04-09 13:37   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 14:06     ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 16:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 17:16       ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:27         ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:30         ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-09 19:05           ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 19:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 22:29             ` David Miller
2008-04-10  0:02               ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10  0:37                 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-10 13:52                   ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10 15:15                     ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:58                       ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10  1:22                 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 15:07                   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:20                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-10 22:09                     ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 22:46                       ` David Miller
2008-04-10 22:52                         ` Charlie Brady
2008-04-10 23:02                         ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 23:05                           ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:10                         ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:14                           ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:32                             ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:41                               ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:51                                 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:39                           ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-11  0:16                         ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  0:24                           ` David Miller
2008-04-11  0:27                             ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  0:39                               ` David Miller
2008-04-11  1:23                                 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  6:40                                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 13:19                                     ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 14:35                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 14:59                                         ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 15:18                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 18:07                                             ` David Miller
2008-04-11 21:29                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12  8:44                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-12  9:49                                                 ` David Miller
2008-04-13 18:15                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:51                                                     ` Sergio Luis
2008-04-13 19:24                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-11 19:58                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:16                                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 22:25                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 22:27                                             ` David Miller
2008-04-11 23:23                                             ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-12  5:37                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12  7:06                                               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 22:26                                           ` David Miller
2008-04-11 19:58                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:27                                     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-13 18:40                                       ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:47                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-13 19:18                                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-13 19:27                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 19:47                                             ` Reporting bugs and bisection David Miller
2008-04-13 20:21                                             ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 20:33                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 20:54                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 22:24                                                   ` Reporting bugs and bisection Stephen Clark
2008-04-13 22:41                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:51                                                     ` david
2008-04-14  0:36                                                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14  4:39                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14  5:39                                                         ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  6:24                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14  6:39                                                             ` David Miller
2008-04-14  6:43                                                               ` David Miller
2008-04-14  7:23                                                             ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  7:43                                                               ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  8:04                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14  8:30                                                                 ` David Miller
2008-04-14  9:06                                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14  9:46                                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15  5:25                                                                     ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41                                                                     ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35                                                                       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08                                                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43                                                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24                                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30                                                                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54                                                               ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01                                                                 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15  4:55                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18                                                                       ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15  9:33                                                                 ` David Newall
2008-04-15  9:54                                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04                                                                     ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16  2:34                                                                         ` David Newall
2008-04-16  3:53                                                                           ` david
2008-04-16  9:06                                                                             ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02                                                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41                                                                             ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16  4:29                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15                                                                   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26                                                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02                                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43                                                                         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55                                                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50                                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26                                                                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58                                                                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01                                                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39                                                                       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16                                                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53                                                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05                                                                             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25                                                                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04                                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55                                                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 20:55                                                                           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17                                                                     ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04                                                                       ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35                                                                           ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57                                                                             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16                                                                             ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 20:38                                                                               ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53                                                                                 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01                                                                                   ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18                                                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14  9:26                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:35                                               ` David Miller
2008-04-14 10:18                                             ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 10:29                                               ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-04-13 20:10                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14  9:58                                           ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-14 10:00                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 10:16                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 21:53                                 ` about bisections (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 22:30                                   ` about bisections David Miller
2008-04-15 22:48                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11  0:56                             ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11  1:08                               ` David Miller
2008-04-11  0:26                           ` David Miller
2008-04-11  0:29                             ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  2:59                               ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-11  3:18                                 ` [PATCH 2.6.25] net sockets: fix timewait namespace regression Mark Lord
2008-04-11  3:51                                   ` David Miller
2008-04-11  7:50                                 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-10 20:46                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-10 21:05                   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 21:43                     ` Ilpo Järvinen

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