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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: What does 0dB refer to? (Logitech USB Speakers)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:37:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48061D1F.6060809@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480618F3.40707@keyaccess.nl>

On 16-04-08 17:19, Rene Herman wrote:

For now last time that I reply to myself (promise):

> On 16-04-08 16:29, Rene Herman wrote:
> 
>> On 15-04-08 16:33, Rene Herman wrote:

>> On that note, I just acquired an Audigy 2 (SB0240) that I'm testing 
>> with and now that I'm paying attention to it due to this thread -- its 
>> 0 dB setting is very significantly louder (with everything behind the 
>> line-out constant ofcourse) than the 0 dB setting on my TerraTec DMX.
>>
>> James, I believe you are the emu10k1 person? Data:
>>
>> TerraTec DMX = ESS Canyon3D (ES1970MS-3D) + Sigmatel STAC9704T
>>
>> Creative Audigy 2 (SB0240) = Creative CA0102-ICT + Sigmatel STAC9721T 
>> (+ Crystal CS4382-KQ which seems to provide digital attenuation as well)
>>
>> At 0 dB master the Audigy 2 is much louder than the DMX is and audibly 
>> distorts. Judging by hearing, keeping the master at -16 dB (60 in the 
>> integer scale) gets things about the same. Was that scale provided by 
>> datasheet or just guessed? Especially the distortion would seem to 
>> indicate that something is actually doing analogue amplification at 
>> the 0 dB ALSA setting...
> 
> Expanding, with the 'Line' control at 0 dB (74 integer) and 'Analog Mix' 
> at 0 dB (100 integer) everything does sound right with both 'Master 
> Capture' and 'Master' at  full, and too faint with 'Master' at -16 dB. I 
> guess this indicates that it's something at the DSP side only? (sort of 
> loosing my way in this bewildering array of controls so if I need to be 
> guided to possibly say sensible things -- please do)

When I do actually capture, -16 dB master is again the correct setting when 
playing back (with everything else still set to 0 dB as described above). 
It's then equally load as when directly monitored during recording. I expect 
then the Master dB scale needs to be adjusted down? If yes, I'll try to make 
very, very sure that -16 dB now is the correct new 0 dB.

Rene.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-16 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-11 20:46 What does 0dB refer to? (Logitech USB Speakers) Lennart Poettering
2008-04-12  0:09 ` Mark Brown
2008-04-12  7:27 ` John Rigg
2008-04-12 11:15 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-12 12:01   ` John Rigg
2008-04-12 13:16     ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-12 13:35   ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-12 18:14     ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-12 18:25       ` Florian Faber
2008-04-12 19:26         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-12 19:34           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-12 19:37           ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 16:48             ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 17:00               ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 17:24                 ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 22:47                   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 23:57                     ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-15  1:04                       ` Rene Herman
2008-04-15  4:09                       ` Florian Faber
2008-04-15 17:02                         ` Rene Herman
2008-04-12 21:41           ` John Rigg
2008-04-12 21:55             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-12 22:09               ` Rene Herman
2008-04-12 22:23                 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 16:58                 ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 17:28                   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-12 22:43               ` John Rigg
2008-04-13 12:36               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-04-14 16:56               ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 16:50           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-15 15:03         ` Wolfgang Woehl
2008-04-12 21:14       ` John Rigg
2008-04-12 21:54         ` stan
2008-04-12 23:00           ` John Rigg
2008-04-12 23:24             ` Lee Revell
2008-04-13 10:51               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-13 11:26                 ` Florian Faber
2008-04-13 12:09                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-13 11:52                 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-13 15:17                   ` stan
2008-04-13 16:28                     ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 16:40       ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-12 19:32     ` Rene Herman
2008-04-12 21:16       ` Rene Herman
2008-04-13 17:48         ` Mark Brown
2008-04-14 17:00       ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 17:22         ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 17:28           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 21:07             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-14 22:08               ` Aldrin Martoq
2008-04-14 23:43                 ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-14 23:54                   ` Lee Revell
2008-04-15  2:18                   ` Aldrin Martoq
2008-04-15  3:52               ` Florian Faber
2008-04-15 12:32                 ` John Rigg
2008-04-15 13:12                 ` John Rigg
2008-04-15 14:33                   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-16 14:29                     ` Rene Herman
2008-04-16 15:19                       ` Rene Herman
2008-04-16 15:37                         ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-04-17 20:39                           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-17 21:30                             ` Rene Herman
2008-06-09 23:37                               ` Rene Herman
2008-04-15 14:43                   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-15 16:55                     ` John Rigg
2008-04-15 15:42                 ` Wolfgang Woehl
2008-04-15 15:51                   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-15 16:41                   ` John Rigg
2008-04-15 17:14                     ` Wolfgang Woehl
2008-04-15 17:50                       ` John Rigg
2008-04-20  1:01               ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-20 15:23                 ` stan
2008-04-21  3:20                   ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-04-21 13:43                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-04-21 15:25                   ` Rene Herman
2008-04-21 16:01                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-04-21 16:06                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-04-21 16:09                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-04-21 16:17                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-04-15 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-04-20  0:00   ` Lennart Poettering
2008-04-21 13:32     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-04-21 17:10       ` Rene Herman

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