From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: nadim khemir <nadim@khemir.net>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: Feedback and errors
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 13:52:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <481AF262.4080305@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804282258.08426.nadim@khemir.net>
nadim khemir wrote:
> Hi, great work.
>
> While playing with kvm-qemu I noticed a few points that might be of interrest:
>
> 1/ -loadvm and -snapshot don't work together. It works as if -loadvm wasn't
> passed as argument
>
> 2/ two instances of kvm can be passed the same -hda. There is no locking
> whatsoever. This messes up things seriously.
>
>
These two are upstream qemu problems. Copying qemu-devel.
I guess using file locking by default would improve the situation, and
we can add a -drive ...,exclusive=no option for people playing with
cluster filesystems.
> 3/ trying to run 'savevm' in the qemu console when -usb is used results in
>
> (qemu) savevm scite
> (qemu) exception 13 (0)
> rax 0000000000000000 rbx 0000000000000000 rcx 0000000000000010 rdx
> 0000000000000000
> ...
>
> This is documented but a warning in the console would be better than a crash
>
> if the vm is stopped first, 'savevm' works but it still crashes on 'cont'
> instead
>
> 4/ if -vga-std is used when doing a 'savevm', 'loadvm' restores a black
> screen. Everything is there and with some gymnastic (moving a window around)
> the screen is like it should be.
>
> 5/ -usbdevice tablet is a must, 'ctl+alt' is just too painfull! is it possible
> to get the same effect (with another system) and still be able to 'savevm'?
>
>
-vmmouse will work with Linux, with Windows, you might need to install a
driver.
> 6/ If you use -usbdevice tablet, keyboard is first handled by guest OS. In my
> case I have 'alt F4' close windows in the host OS. If I try to close a window
> in the guest OS with 'alt f4', it closes qemu altogether.
>
Try full screen mode (alt-ctrl-F).
If the host didn't handle Alt-F4 in non-capture mode, you'd have no way
to close the qemu window.
> 7/ On the other hand, mouse events are _not_ handled by the gues OS first, IE:
> alt click isn't handled by X but by windows (in this case)
>
> 8/ keyboard input lost when switching to full screen or back. fixed by
> using 'ctl+alt' twice
>
> 9/ IMHO, the way "versionning" with 'savevm' is done could feel more natural.
>
> first run
> time ------------------------------> stop VM
> ^ |
> | |
> | v
> savevm state1 automatically save "HEAD" in -hda
>
>
>
> second run
> time ------------------------------>stop VM
> ^ |
> | |
> | v
> loadvm state1 automatically save "HEAD" in -hda
> ^
> |
> .----------'
> |
> .-------------------------------------------------.
> | I believe most people want to save in 'state1' |
> | or possibly in 'state2' but few want to |
> | override "HEAD" |
> '-------------------------------------------------'
>
>
> automatically overriding 'state1' feels as wrong as overriding "HEAD". I
> believe that a -savevm to qemu would be a good idea. If nothing is passed as
> argument "HEAD" is used. That would preserve "HEAD" and allow saving to a
> user defined vm snapshot.
>
> 10/ subscription to the mailing list doesn't seem to work
>
>
What do you mean?
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: nadim khemir <nadim@khemir.net>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] Feedback and errors
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 13:52:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <481AF262.4080305@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804282258.08426.nadim@khemir.net>
nadim khemir wrote:
> Hi, great work.
>
> While playing with kvm-qemu I noticed a few points that might be of interrest:
>
> 1/ -loadvm and -snapshot don't work together. It works as if -loadvm wasn't
> passed as argument
>
> 2/ two instances of kvm can be passed the same -hda. There is no locking
> whatsoever. This messes up things seriously.
>
>
These two are upstream qemu problems. Copying qemu-devel.
I guess using file locking by default would improve the situation, and
we can add a -drive ...,exclusive=no option for people playing with
cluster filesystems.
> 3/ trying to run 'savevm' in the qemu console when -usb is used results in
>
> (qemu) savevm scite
> (qemu) exception 13 (0)
> rax 0000000000000000 rbx 0000000000000000 rcx 0000000000000010 rdx
> 0000000000000000
> ...
>
> This is documented but a warning in the console would be better than a crash
>
> if the vm is stopped first, 'savevm' works but it still crashes on 'cont'
> instead
>
> 4/ if -vga-std is used when doing a 'savevm', 'loadvm' restores a black
> screen. Everything is there and with some gymnastic (moving a window around)
> the screen is like it should be.
>
> 5/ -usbdevice tablet is a must, 'ctl+alt' is just too painfull! is it possible
> to get the same effect (with another system) and still be able to 'savevm'?
>
>
-vmmouse will work with Linux, with Windows, you might need to install a
driver.
> 6/ If you use -usbdevice tablet, keyboard is first handled by guest OS. In my
> case I have 'alt F4' close windows in the host OS. If I try to close a window
> in the guest OS with 'alt f4', it closes qemu altogether.
>
Try full screen mode (alt-ctrl-F).
If the host didn't handle Alt-F4 in non-capture mode, you'd have no way
to close the qemu window.
> 7/ On the other hand, mouse events are _not_ handled by the gues OS first, IE:
> alt click isn't handled by X but by windows (in this case)
>
> 8/ keyboard input lost when switching to full screen or back. fixed by
> using 'ctl+alt' twice
>
> 9/ IMHO, the way "versionning" with 'savevm' is done could feel more natural.
>
> first run
> time ------------------------------> stop VM
> ^ |
> | |
> | v
> savevm state1 automatically save "HEAD" in -hda
>
>
>
> second run
> time ------------------------------>stop VM
> ^ |
> | |
> | v
> loadvm state1 automatically save "HEAD" in -hda
> ^
> |
> .----------'
> |
> .-------------------------------------------------.
> | I believe most people want to save in 'state1' |
> | or possibly in 'state2' but few want to |
> | override "HEAD" |
> '-------------------------------------------------'
>
>
> automatically overriding 'state1' feels as wrong as overriding "HEAD". I
> believe that a -savevm to qemu would be a good idea. If nothing is passed as
> argument "HEAD" is used. That would preserve "HEAD" and allow saving to a
> user defined vm snapshot.
>
> 10/ subscription to the mailing list doesn't seem to work
>
>
What do you mean?
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-02 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-28 20:58 Feedback and errors nadim khemir
2008-05-02 10:52 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-05-02 10:52 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-05-02 14:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-02 14:32 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-05-02 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-02 15:00 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-05-02 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-02 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-05-04 11:19 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-04 11:19 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-05-04 22:52 ` nadim khemir
2008-05-04 22:52 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " nadim khemir
2008-05-04 12:39 ` Javier Guerra Giraldez
2008-05-04 12:39 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Javier Guerra Giraldez
2008-05-02 14:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-05-02 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-05-02 15:02 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-02 15:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-05-02 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2008-05-02 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Jamie Lokier
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