Re: ICH8 HDA not detected after upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04

Re: ICH8 HDA not detected after upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04

[stan]

Janto Schraiber wrote:
> I got the ASUS P5B mainboard with an Intel HDA compatible Soundchip 
> (Analog Devices... AD 1988B afaik but I'm not realy sure about that). 
> Under Ubunt 7.10 it works out of the box but I just recently updated 
> to the new Ubuntu 8.04 where the card is no longer detected.
>
> There are some post on the web about the problem, but most deal with 
> issues, after you get details per 'head -n 1 
> /proc/asound/card0/codec*' or the like, but sine the card is not 
> detected at all, i get no info from commands like that... see:
>
> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> --- no soundcards ---
>
> I installed the latest drivers from source, but it doesn't help. I 
> also tried to update the kernel, etc. from the 'hardy-proposed' 
> repository, still no luck.
>
> Here's the output from the 'alsa-info.sh' script:
> http://pastebin.ca/1028944
>
> And here's my dmesg:
> http://pastebin.ca/1028967
>
> What should I do to get my card working again?
 From your dmesg here's the problem.
HDA Intel: probe of 0000:00:1b.0 failed with error -16

I'm not a developer so I don't know what that means, just that it is not 
good.

I think this is an issue for some hda-intel cards in kernel version 
2.6.25.  In the cases I have seen the card was working on the 24 version 
kernel, but when they moved to 25 it stopped working.  That is, it's a 
regression.  I don't think there is anything you can do until the 
problem is fixed there.  Using the earlier kernel is probably not 
possible with the rest of the system.  I don't know this, but suspect 
it.  You could try compiling an earlier kernel on your system. 

I'll cross post this to the alsa-devel mailing list so the developers 
become aware of the problem.

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Re: ICH8 HDA not detected after upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04

[klondike]

2008/5/25 stan :
> I think this is an issue for some hda-intel cards in kernel version
> 2.6.25.  In the cases I have seen the card was working on the 24 version
> kernel, but when they moved to 25 it stopped working.  That is, it's a
> regression.  I don't think there is anything you can do until the
> problem is fixed there.  Using the earlier kernel is probably not
> possible with the rest of the system.  I don't know this, but suspect
> it.  You could try compiling an earlier kernel on your system.
The thing is that the kernel jump was from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24, albeit
that could also cause problems.

BTW: if you want to compile a kernel on Ubuntu you can look at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but I don't think
that's a good idea as different versions of the alsa drivers and the
alsa lib may be incompatible.

PS: Janto it'd be nice if you post a bug report on launchpad so Ubuntu
developers also know this issue.

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Re: [Alsa-user] ICH8 HDA not detected after upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04

[Takashi Iwai]

At Sun, 25 May 2008 14:50:35 -0700,
stan wrote:
> 
> Janto Schraiber wrote:
> > I got the ASUS P5B mainboard with an Intel HDA compatible Soundchip 
> > (Analog Devices... AD 1988B afaik but I'm not realy sure about that). 
> > Under Ubunt 7.10 it works out of the box but I just recently updated 
> > to the new Ubuntu 8.04 where the card is no longer detected.
> >
> > There are some post on the web about the problem, but most deal with 
> > issues, after you get details per 'head -n 1 
> > /proc/asound/card0/codec*' or the like, but sine the card is not 
> > detected at all, i get no info from commands like that... see:
> >
> > $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> > --- no soundcards ---
> >
> > I installed the latest drivers from source, but it doesn't help. I 
> > also tried to update the kernel, etc. from the 'hardy-proposed' 
> > repository, still no luck.
> >
> > Here's the output from the 'alsa-info.sh' script:
> > http://pastebin.ca/1028944
> >
> > And here's my dmesg:
> > http://pastebin.ca/1028967
> >
> > What should I do to get my card working again?
>  From your dmesg here's the problem.
> HDA Intel: probe of 0000:00:1b.0 failed with error -16

You should have more messages than that.  It's just the end result,
not the cause...

Most likely you didn't enable CONFIG_SND_HDA_* kconfig items.  But
it's just a wild guess.


Takashi

> 
> I'm not a developer so I don't know what that means, just that it is not 
> good.
> 
> I think this is an issue for some hda-intel cards in kernel version 
> 2.6.25.  In the cases I have seen the card was working on the 24 version 
> kernel, but when they moved to 25 it stopped working.  That is, it's a 
> regression.  I don't think there is anything you can do until the 
> problem is fixed there.  Using the earlier kernel is probably not 
> possible with the rest of the system.  I don't know this, but suspect 
> it.  You could try compiling an earlier kernel on your system. 
> 
> I'll cross post this to the alsa-devel mailing list so the developers 
> become aware of the problem.
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Re: [alsa-devel] ICH8 HDA not detected after upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04

[Janto Schraiber]

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Thanks for your suggestions and sorry for my late response, I'm drowning
in work ;)


Nigel Henry wrote:
> I don't have an instance of Hardy Heron (8.04) installed at the
> moment, but it may be worth looking in synaptic, and if the
> alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package is there, remove it. it will at least
> remove pulseaudio from possibly compounding your sound problems, and
> when, and if you get the sounds working, you can always just
> re-install the package, if you want pulseaudio that is.

While there is no package called 'alsa-plugins-pulseaudio' in 8.04 (see
http://dpaste.com/53030/ for the default installed pulse packages), I
removed it per 'sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio', but it seems not to affect
my problem (since the card is not - yet - detected I didn't even start to
mess with soundconfiguration / setting up the soundserver).

The problem really seems to be a hardware vs. kernel one and since it
works in earlier kernels it's clearly a regression :( Nailing it down is
somewhat harder since there a various different errors with the same
outcome: no sound with this chipset. Those I came across while looking
for a solution: Card is not detected at all, problems loading codec and
module could not be loaded because of unknown symbols. There are also
problems because some modules won't load per default and others where
the sound is working, but with extremely low volume.


Takashi Iwai wrote:
> You should have more messages than that.  It's just the end result,
> not the cause...

I'm not sure what's caused this, but I guess this is the whole part:

[ 41.554112] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) ->
IRQ 21
[ 41.554119] PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #1:4000@febf8000 for device
0000:00:1b.0
[ 41.554123] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
[ 41.554131] HDA Intel: probe of 0000:00:1b.0 failed with error -16

You can see my whole dmesg here:
http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/225479/

> Most likely you didn't enable CONFIG_SND_HDA_* kconfig items.  But
> it's just a wild guess.

I'm not sure how to check:

$cat /boot/config-2.6.24-16-generic | grep SND
# CONFIG_SND is not set

$cat /boot/config-2.6.24-17-generic | grep SND
# CONFIG_SND is not set

Is that what you mean?


klondike wrote:
> PS: Janto it'd be nice if you post a bug report on launchpad so
> Ubuntu developers also know this issue.

I found a bug on launchpad, that seems to fit to my problem:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/211644

I will post my error-report there too.

For Dell Laptops there are some suggestions on how to fix this:
http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04
http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04/Issues/No_Sound_After_Distribution_Upgrade

A general workaround is also suggested: One could use the -rt kernel, sound
should work there. I will test that later (no time right now) and keep you
posted.

The posts from Warren Turkal look especially interesting:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/211644/comments/46
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/211644/comments/47


Thanks for your time
-janto

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Re: [Alsa-user] ICH8 HDA not detected after upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 27 May 2008 15:17:40 +0200,
Janto Schraiber wrote:
> 
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > You should have more messages than that.  It's just the end result,
> > not the cause...
> 
> I'm not sure what's caused this, but I guess this is the whole part:
> 
> [ 41.554112] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ
> 21
> [ 41.554119] PCI: Unable to reserve mem region #1:4000@febf8000 for device
> 0000:00:1b.0

So, this is no sound-driver but rather a deeper kernel problem.
Please report this on kernel bugzilla, or let distro bug master to
point to there. 


Takashi