From: Yong Fan <Yong.Fan@Sun.COM>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] Moving forward on Quotas
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:09:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <484D55BD.2010806@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C472AA74.597C%peter.braam@sun.com>
Peter Braam ??:
> Thanks for explaining.
>
> The trust concept you outline is definitely not acceptable - we need a
> capability for all access and modifications done through clients on behalf
> of a capability.
>
> Even changes made by the MDS need to be secured - that can be through a
> kerberos connection, and again, not through blind trust.
>
The client reliability (trusted or untrusted) and the MDS/OSS capabilities
are not conflict. They can be combined together as mentioned in draft of
new MDS/OSS capabilities HLD.
capabilities.lyx is the old HLD
capability_hld.lyx is the new HLD which is in patch inspection and fix.
Thanks!
--
Fan Yong
> Would you please send the capability HLD to me? Thanks!
>
> - Peter -
>
>
> On 6/9/08 2:52 AM, "Yong Fan" <Yong.Fan@Sun.COM> wrote:
>
>
>> Peter Braam ??:
>>
>>> On 6/6/08 1:33 AM, "Johann Lombardi" <johann@sun.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 06:45:36AM -0700, Peter Braam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, this protocol hasn't been published yet; why not include the server
>>>>> side uid / gid then?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I understood from Fanyong that according to the remote client design
>>>> requirements, we should not allow the remote client to access the
>>>> server-side
>>>> uid/gid mapping.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You have two choices: break that rule OR let the MDS server do the ownership
>>> changes. It's not complicated, just make a choice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> But more seriously, how is this encoded in such a way that the OST can
>>>>> trust
>>>>> the information - it must be in the capability too?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> hmm, I don't see any capability associated with this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> We had better find it, otherwise there is a security hole.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I think we can divide clients into two sorts: trusted and untrusted.
>> The client reliability is defined by administrator. Remote client
>> should be counted as untrusted one. The best simple way is that:
>> local client is trusted, remote client is untrusted.
>>
>> For the trusted ones, disable capability, OSS set file "uid" and "gid"
>> with "oa.o_uid" and "oa.o_gid". It is the current using means.
>> For the untrusted ones, enable capability, OSS set file "uid" and "gid"
>> which contain in the OSS capability got from MDS when open.
>> With OSS capability enabled will affect performance, and current
>> capability's design does not contain the consideration for that. We
>> can fix the OSS capability design in the task "o3_se_capa_review"
>>
>> Note: since capability feature is time-consuming, we want to support
>> enforcing capabilities on selected clients (or somewhat MDS/OSS
>> capability should aim at remote client). On he other hand, enforcing
>> capabilities on selected clients can simply the capability interoperability
>> between HEAD and b1_6.
>>
>> If this idea can be approved, then the current remote client uid mapping
>> rules can be unchanged, uid mapping on OST is unnecessary also.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> Fan Yong
>>
>>>> Johann
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>>>> http://lists.lustre.org/mailman/listinfo/lustre-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20080605083957.GQ6283@lore>
2008-06-05 11:09 ` [Lustre-devel] Moving forward on Quotas Peter Braam
2008-06-05 12:27 ` Johann Lombardi
2008-06-05 13:45 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-06 7:33 ` Johann Lombardi
2008-06-06 12:21 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-09 8:52 ` Yong Fan
2008-06-09 15:37 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-09 16:09 ` Yong Fan [this message]
2008-06-10 13:54 ` Yong Fan
2008-06-10 16:51 ` Peter Braam
[not found] <92825021-D566-4805-9297-5EFBD3260D73@Sun.COM>
2008-06-01 2:44 ` Peter Braam
[not found] <18490.63940.619731.992500@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2008-05-26 23:28 ` Peter Braam
2008-05-28 8:06 ` Johann Lombardi
2008-06-01 2:32 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-02 12:22 ` Johann Lombardi
2008-06-02 23:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-03 8:49 ` Landen tian
2008-06-04 1:24 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-04 7:05 ` Landen tian
2008-06-04 8:26 ` Johann Lombardi
2008-05-28 14:29 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-28 14:54 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-05-28 15:14 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-28 16:22 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-05-28 17:05 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-28 20:06 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-05-28 21:07 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-28 21:11 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-05-28 21:33 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-29 8:39 ` Nikita Danilov
[not found] ` <18496.11672.844774.815457@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2008-05-31 15:31 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-31 15:49 ` Ricardo M. Correia
[not found] ` <1212247447.21348.70.camel@localhost>
2008-05-31 16:19 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-05-31 17:19 ` Ricardo M. Correia
2008-05-31 19:11 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-06-01 2:36 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-01 3:17 ` Mike Shapiro
2008-06-01 2:26 ` Peter Braam
2008-06-01 4:53 ` Jeff Bonwick
2008-06-01 13:58 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-06-03 0:50 ` Matthew Ahrens
2008-06-03 7:49 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-06-04 23:50 ` Matthew Ahrens
2008-05-28 15:24 ` Nikita Danilov
2008-05-31 10:25 ` Peter Braam
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