[Lustre-devel] Moving forward on Quotas

[Peter Braam <Peter.Braam@Sun.COM>]

For CIFS quota and user ids get in touch with Matt Wu and Mike Shapiro.
There are special interfaces in ZFS/DMU for better windows support that we
probably need to leverage.

Peter


On 5/29/08 5:07 AM, "Ricardo M. Correia" <Ricardo.M.Correia@Sun.COM> wrote:

> On Qui, 2008-05-29 at 00:06 +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote:
>> 
>> Well... that's just renaming uid and gid into opaqueid0 and
>> opaqueid1. :-)
> 
> It may be simple for POSIX uids/gids, but maybe not for CIFS user ids (but
> since there is a mapping table it may be also be simple, I'm not sure).
> I think it would make sense to give it a list of opaque ids, instead of just
> opaqueid0 and opaqueid1 (maybe a file could belong to multiple groups or maybe
> we can think of other creative ideas in the future..).
> 
>>  So on one hand we have to add a couple of parameters to all dmu entry
>>  points that can allocate disk space. On the other hand we have something
>>  like
>>  
>>  typedef void (*dmu_alloc_callback_t)(objset_t *os, uint64_t objid, long
>> bytes);
>>  
>>  void dmu_alloc_callback_register(objset_t *os, dmu_alloc_callback_t cb);
>>  
>>  with dmu calling registered call-back when blocks are actually allocated
>>  to the object. Advantage of the later interface is that dmu implements
>>  only mechanism, and policy ("user quotas" and "group quotas") is left to
>>  the upper layers to implement.
> 
> I don't see why that would be an advantage over what we had planned to do.
> The plan we discussed with the ZFS team was to make the DMU do space
> accounting internally by opaque ids, so the quota policy/enforcement would
> still be left to the upper layers to implement.
> 
>> 
>> If quota management and storage are
>> completely encapsulated within dmu, then dmu has to provide full quota
>> control interface too, and that interface has to be exported from osd
>> upward. For one thing, implementation of this interface is going to take
>> a lot of time.
> 
> Again, the plan was for the DMU to do only space accounting, the actual quota
> management and enforcement would be implemented in Lustre.
> 
> 
>> 
>>>  > For things that requires knowledge of DMU internals (like space
>>>  > accounting, spacemaps, ...) it shouldn't be the DMU consumer that has to
>>>  > write during the txg sync phase, it should be the DMU because only the
>>>  > DMU should know about its internals.
>> 
>> I don't quite understand this argument. DMU already has an interface to
>> capture a buffer into a transaction and to modify it within this
>> transaction. An interface to modify a buffer after transaction was
>> closed, but before it is committed is no more "internal" than the first
>> one. It is just places more restrictions on what consumer is allowed to
>> do with the buffer.
> 
> What I mean is that IMO a consumer of a filesystem shouldn't have to know
> intimate details of how the filesystem (in this case, the DMU) works.
> For instance, so far Lustre had no idea that transactions are actually grouped
> into transaction groups and it had no idea about transaction group states.
> 
> Allowing modification of buffers by an upper layer when a transaction group is
> already syncing is not a very elegant way to solve this IMHO (compared with
> our previous plan).. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ricardo
> 
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