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From: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, menage@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing	cpus_allowed
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:00:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <484EC121.8010806@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610170005.GA6038@tv-sign.ru>



Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 06/10, Max Krasnyansky wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> Per cpu workqueues should stay on their cpu.
>>>
>>> What you're really looking for is a more fine grained alternative to
>>> flush_workqueue().
>> Actually I had a discussion on that with Oleg Nesterov. If you remember my
>> original solution (ie centralized cpu_isolate_map) was to completely redirect
>> work onto other cpus. Then you pointed out that it's the flush_() that really
>> makes the box stuck. So I started thinking about redoing the flush. While
>> looking at the code I realized that if I only change the flush_() then queued
>> work can get stale so to speak. ie Machine does not get stuck but some work
>> submitted on the isolated cpus will sit there for a long time. Oleg pointed
>> out exact same thing. So the simplest solution that does not require any
>> surgery to the workqueue is to just move the threads to other cpus.
> 
> Cough... I'd like to mention that I _personally agree with Peter, cwq->thread's
> should stay on their cpu.
I never argued against the _should stay_ ;-). What I'm arguing against is the
_must stay_ which is a big difference. I'll start a separate thread on this.

> I just meant that from the workqueue.c pov it is (afaics) OK to move cwq->thread
> to other CPUs, in a sense that this shouldn't add races or hotplug problems, etc.
Yep. That's what I was referring to in the explanation that I send to Peter.

> But still this doesn't look right to me.
Yeah, it's all about perceptions. We'll fix that ;-).

Max


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-10 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-05 19:57 [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed David Rientjes
2008-06-05 20:29 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-05 21:12   ` David Rientjes
2008-06-09 20:59     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-09 22:07       ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10  4:23         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 17:04           ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 16:30         ` cpusets and kthreads, inconsistent behaviour Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 18:47           ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 20:44             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 20:54               ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 21:15                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10  6:44       ` [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-10 15:38         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 17:00           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-10 17:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-10 20:24               ` workqueue cpu affinity Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-11  6:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-11 19:02                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-12 18:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-12 19:10                       ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-11 16:08                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-11 19:21                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-11 19:21                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-12 16:35                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-11 20:44                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 18:00             ` Max Krasnyansky [this message]
2008-06-05 20:52 ` [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed Daniel Walker
2008-06-05 21:47 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-10 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-10 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov

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