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From: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	menage@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cpusets and kthreads, inconsistent behaviour
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:44:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <484EE7BE.3000606@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0806101135050.28953@chino.kir.corp.google.com>



David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Max Krasnyansky wrote:
> 
>> Basically the issue is that current behaviour of the cpusets is inconsistent
>> with regards to kthreads. Kthreads inherit cpuset from a parent properly but
>> they simply ignore cpuset.cpus when their cpu affinity is set/updated.
>> I think the behaviour must be consistent across the board. cpuset.cpus must
>> apply to _all_ the tasks in the set, not just some of the tasks. If kthread
>> must run on the cpus other than current_cpuset.cpus then it should detach from
>> the cpuset.
>>
> 
> I disagree that a cpuset's set of allowable cpus should apply to all tasks 
> attached to that cpuset.  It's certainly beneficial to be able to further 
> constrict the set of allowed cpus for a task using sched_setaffinity().
> 
> It makes more sense to argue that for each task p, p->cpus_allowed is a 
> subset of task_cs(p)->cpus_allowed.
Yes that's exactly what I meant :). Sorry for not being clear. I did not mean
that each task in a cpuset must have the same affinity mask. So we're on the
same page here.

>> To give you an example kthreads like scsi_eh, kswapd, kacpid, pdflush,
>> kseriod, etc are all started with cpus_allows=ALL_CPUS even though they
>> inherit a cpuset from kthreadd. Yes they can moved manually (with
>> sched_setaffinity) but the behaviour is not consistent, and for no good
>> reason. kthreads can be stopped/started at any time (module load for example)
>> which means that the user will have to keep moving them.
>>
> 
> This doesn't seem to be purely a kthread issue.  Tasks can be moved to a 
> disjoint set of cpus by any caller to set_cpus_allowed_ptr() in the 
> kernel.
Hmm, technically you are correct of course. But we do not have any other
kernel tasks besides kthreads. All the kernel tasks I have on my machines have
kthreadd as their parent.
And I'm not aware of any kernel code that changes affinity mask of a
user-space task without paying attention to the cpuset the task belongs to. If
you know of any we should fix it because it'd clearly be a bug.

Thanx
Max

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-10 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-05 19:57 [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed David Rientjes
2008-06-05 20:29 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-05 21:12   ` David Rientjes
2008-06-09 20:59     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-09 22:07       ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10  4:23         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 17:04           ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 16:30         ` cpusets and kthreads, inconsistent behaviour Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 18:47           ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 20:44             ` Max Krasnyansky [this message]
2008-06-10 20:54               ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 21:15                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10  6:44       ` [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-10 15:38         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 17:00           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-10 17:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-10 20:24               ` workqueue cpu affinity Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-11  6:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-11 19:02                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-12 18:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-12 19:10                       ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-11 16:08                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-11 19:21                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-11 19:21                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-12 16:35                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-11 20:44                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 18:00             ` [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-05 20:52 ` Daniel Walker
2008-06-05 21:47 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-10 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-10 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov

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