From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] mm: vmap rewrite
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:46:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48501D7C.5050600@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610025312.GC19404@wotan.suse.de>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> It's harder than that even, because we don't own the page flags, so then
> clearing the PG_kalias bit would require that we make all page flags ops
> atomic in all parts of the kernel. Obviously not going to happen.
>
> The other thing we could do is have vmap layer keep some p->v translations
> around (actually it doesn't even need to go all the way to v, just a single
> bit would suffice) So I guess this would be like another page flag, but
> without the atomicity problem and without me getting angry at using another
> flag ;) Still, I'd rather not do this and slow everything else down.
>
Yeah. It's a bit awkward to maintain a secondary structure just to deal
with the confluence of two edge cases (running Xen + reusing an aliased
page in a pagetable).
> It could be switched on at runtime if Xen is running perhaps. Or the other
> thing Xen could do is keep a cache of unaliased page table pages. You
> could fill it up N pages at a time, and just do a single unmap_aliases call
> to sanitize them all; also, clean pages returned from pagetables could be
> reused. Like the quicklists things.
>
Hm, that wouldn't be too bad (so long as it doesn't end up hiding
gigabytes of memory away from the rest of the system ;).
> Or: doesn't the host have to do its own alias check anyway? In case of an
> AWOL guest? Why not just reuse that and trap back into the guest to fix it
> up?
That's possible, but awkward. In many cases these updates will be
batched, so it would become a matter of issuing a batch, then picking
through the results to see what worked and what failed. I suppose I
could just do the simple flush and then if that turns out too expensive,
do the submit-and-retry approach.
J
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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] mm: vmap rewrite
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:46:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48501D7C.5050600@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610025312.GC19404@wotan.suse.de>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> It's harder than that even, because we don't own the page flags, so then
> clearing the PG_kalias bit would require that we make all page flags ops
> atomic in all parts of the kernel. Obviously not going to happen.
>
> The other thing we could do is have vmap layer keep some p->v translations
> around (actually it doesn't even need to go all the way to v, just a single
> bit would suffice) So I guess this would be like another page flag, but
> without the atomicity problem and without me getting angry at using another
> flag ;) Still, I'd rather not do this and slow everything else down.
>
Yeah. It's a bit awkward to maintain a secondary structure just to deal
with the confluence of two edge cases (running Xen + reusing an aliased
page in a pagetable).
> It could be switched on at runtime if Xen is running perhaps. Or the other
> thing Xen could do is keep a cache of unaliased page table pages. You
> could fill it up N pages at a time, and just do a single unmap_aliases call
> to sanitize them all; also, clean pages returned from pagetables could be
> reused. Like the quicklists things.
>
Hm, that wouldn't be too bad (so long as it doesn't end up hiding
gigabytes of memory away from the rest of the system ;).
> Or: doesn't the host have to do its own alias check anyway? In case of an
> AWOL guest? Why not just reuse that and trap back into the guest to fix it
> up?
That's possible, but awkward. In many cases these updates will be
batched, so it would become a matter of issuing a batch, then picking
through the results to see what worked and what failed. I suppose I
could just do the simple flush and then if that turns out too expensive,
do the submit-and-retry approach.
J
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-11 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-05 10:20 [rfc][patch] mm: vmap rewrite Nick Piggin
2008-06-05 10:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-06 7:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-06-06 7:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-06-10 3:45 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-10 3:45 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-07 17:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-07 17:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 2:53 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-10 2:53 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-11 18:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-06-11 18:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-12 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-12 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-12 20:18 ` [rfc][patch] mm: vmap rewrite #2 Nick Piggin
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