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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Eric Leblond <eric@inl.fr>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, chifflier@inl.fr
Subject: Re: [ULOGD PATCH 3/6] Fix warning about unused variable if	NFLOG_GID is not available.
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:45:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4866165C.8000903@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080628102559.GC6761@bayen.regit.org>

Eric Leblond wrote:
> On Saturday, 2008 June 28 at 11:54:14 +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
>> The thing changes if we discuss about the userspace tools. I think that
>> they must use the latest library release. Thus, we avoid having people
>> that report problems that has been already fixed.
> 
> I really don't like this policy because it is too efficient: You will have
> any report before required version of library get into the distributions
> because people won't test it it there is too much work to build a test
> system.

Let's see it from this point: Assume that my policy consists of reducing
people homework to keep it easier to test ulogd2. Then, later on, I may
receive reports on problems that are supposed-to-be-fixed.

This report, consequently, will increase our workload since we'll have
to request in the ML: "please upgrade to lastest and confirm that it's
fixed, a similar problem is supposed to be fixed in lastest". Then, wait
for their ACK, and so on.

Moreover, since ulogd2 uses three libraries, the hypothetical reported
problem can be in any of those previous library versions. As the users
can use whatever combination of libraries, we'll have to look into the
repository and check if that library suffers from that problem or not.
As said, more work for us.

In short: I prefer reducing my workload if this only implies a sweet
push to make people do their homework - and, after all, they only have
to recompile the libraries which is not that much work.

>>>> Furthermore, I don't think a gcc warning about "unused variable" will
>>>> force a lot of people to upgrade ;)
>>> But a strict configure.in will :/
>> The gcc warning is anecdotic, it was not the main reason to bump the
>> dependencies.
> 
> I know that, I was just talking about the discussed patch. But after
> looking at the changelog and after using ulogd2 without problem with
> older libraries, I don't think the dependencies bump was needed. If a
> bug in the library was preventing ulogd2 to work correctly, I will be
> the first to ask for a dependencies bump but it is far from being the
> case here.
> 
>> Looking at the current state of the libraries, I think that it's the
>> best for now. Later on, once they get more stable and well-tested, we
>> may change this policy.
> 
> Please revert commit 3178606785161296dc5a1bd4d42d965db8b3e2cd if you
> want to apply this strict policy. This code is now useless.

Done. Thanks.

-- 
"Los honestos son inadaptados sociales" -- Les Luthiers

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-28 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-19 12:23 [ULOGD PATCH 0/6] Fix difference between ULOG and NFLOG Eric Leblond
2008-06-19 12:23 ` [ULOGD PATCH 1/6] Suppress spaces at end of line Eric Leblond
2008-06-23 14:23   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-19 12:23 ` [ULOGD PATCH 2/6] Convert struct to [KEY] = {} format Eric Leblond
2008-06-23 14:23   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-19 12:23 ` [ULOGD PATCH 3/6] Fix warning about unused variable if NFLOG_GID is not available Eric Leblond
2008-06-23 14:25   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-27 19:41     ` Eric Leblond
2008-06-27 20:29       ` Eric Leblond
2008-06-28  9:54         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-28 10:25           ` Eric Leblond
2008-06-28 10:45             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2008-06-28 10:45             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-19 12:23 ` [ULOGD PATCH 4/6] Introduce datatype and hwaddrlen param to MAC2STR plugin Eric Leblond
2008-06-23 14:42   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-27 23:02     ` [ULOGD PATCH 0/6] rework mac address related issues Eric Leblond
2008-06-27 23:02     ` [ULOGD PATCH 1/6] Specify that NFLOG only return mac saddr Eric Leblond
2008-06-27 23:02     ` [ULOGD PATCH 2/6] Adapt MAC2STR to NFLOG and ULOG input key change Eric Leblond
2008-06-27 23:02     ` [ULOGD PATCH 3/6] Output mac.saddr and mac.daddr in ULOG plugin Eric Leblond
2008-07-02 13:52       ` [ULOGD PATCH] Output mac.saddr, mac.daddr and oob.protocol " Eric Leblond
2008-07-02 13:56         ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-08 21:56           ` [ULOGD PATCH] rework, fill MAC address in ULOG for ethernet Eric Leblond
2008-07-09 10:50             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-07-09 10:53               ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-09 11:03                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-07-09 11:10                   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-09 21:04                     ` Eric Leblond
2008-07-09 21:18                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-10 20:39                         ` Eric Leblond
2008-07-11 14:08                           ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-15 12:49                             ` Eric Leblond
2008-07-15 13:26                               ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-16 22:24                                 ` netfilter: Send complete hardware header in NFLOG Eric Leblond
2008-07-17  9:01                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-17  9:12                                     ` Eric Leblond
2008-07-17  9:14                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-16 22:29                                 ` [libnetfilter_log PATCH] Add parsing function for raw hardware header Eric Leblond
2008-07-17  9:13                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-16 22:31                                 ` [ULOGD2 PATCH] Sync NFLOG input plugin with NFLOG modification related to " Eric Leblond
2008-07-20 23:51                                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-27 23:02     ` [ULOGD PATCH 4/6] Parse oob protocol in ULOG when possible Eric Leblond
2008-06-27 23:02     ` [ULOGD PATCH 5/6] Add destination mac_addr to database Eric Leblond
2008-06-27 23:03     ` [ULOGD PATCH 6/6] Sync PRINTPKT with mac modification Eric Leblond
2008-06-19 12:23 ` [ULOGD PATCH 5/6] Add destination mac_addr to database Eric Leblond
2008-06-23 14:44   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-19 12:23 ` [ULOGD PATCH 6/6] Suppress verbose debug message in ULOG Eric Leblond
2008-06-23 14:46   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-06-19 12:25 ` netfilter: Make NFLOG dump all hardware header Eric Leblond
2008-06-19 12:30   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-06-19 12:55   ` [PATCH] Change packet hw header struct accordingly to NFLOG update Eric Leblond

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