From: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [crash, bisected] Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:55:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <486A6171.5050909@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <486A5AFC.1090707@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> writes:
>>
>>
>>> No, the original crash being discussed was a GP fault in head_64.S as
>>> it tries
>>> to initialize the kernel segments. The cause was that the prototype
>>> GDT is all
>>> zero, even though it's an initialized variable, and inspection of
>>> vmlinux shows
>>> that it has the right contents. But somehow it's either 1) getting
>>> zeroed on
>>> load, or 2) is loaded to the wrong place.
>>>
>>> The zero-based PDA mechanism requires the introduction of a new ELF
>>> segment
>>> based at vaddr 0 which is sufficiently unusual that it wouldn't
>>> surprise me if
>>> its triggering some toolchain bug.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed. Given the previous description my hunch is that the bug is
>> occurring
>> during objcopy. If vmlinux is good and the compressed kernel is bad.
>>
>> It should be possible to look at vmlinux.bin and see if that was
>> generated
>> properly.
>>
>>
>>> Mike: what would happen if the PDA were based at 4k rather than 0?
>>> The stack
>>> canary would still be at its small offset (0x20?), but it doesn't
>>> need to be
>>> initialized. I'm not sure if doing so would fix anything, however.
>>>
>>
>> I'm dense today. Why are we doing a zero based pda? That seems the most
>> likely culprit of linker trouble, and we should be able to put a smaller
>> offset in the segment register to allow for everything to work as
>> expected.
>>
>
> The only reason we need to do a zero-based PDA is because of the
> boneheaded gcc/x86_64 ABI decision to put the stack canary at a fixed
> offset from %gs (all they had to do was define it as a weak symbol we
> could override). If we want to support stack-protector and unify the
> handling of per-cpu variables, we need to rebase the per-cpu area at
> zero, starting with the PDA.
>
> My own inclination would be to drop stack-protector support until gcc
> gets fixed, rather than letting it prevent us from unifying an area
> which is in need of unification...
>
> J
I might be inclined to agree except most of the past few months of
finding problems caused by NR_CPUS=4096 has been stack overflow. So
any help detecting this condition is very useful. I can get static
stacksizes (of course), but there's not a lot of help determining
call chains except via actually executing the code.
Thanks,
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-01 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-04 0:30 [PATCH 0/4] percpu: Optimize percpu accesses Mike Travis
2008-06-04 0:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] Zero based percpu: Infrastructure to rebase the per cpu area to zero Mike Travis
2008-06-10 10:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-04 0:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: Extend percpu ops to 64 bit Mike Travis
2008-06-10 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-04 0:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area Mike Travis
2008-06-04 12:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 13:48 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-04 13:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 14:17 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-09 23:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-05 10:22 ` [crash, bisected] " Ingo Molnar
2008-06-05 16:02 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-06 8:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-06 13:15 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-18 5:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 21:31 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-18 17:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-18 18:17 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-18 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-18 19:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <48596893.4040908@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <485AADAC.3070301@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <485AB78B.5090904@goop.org>
[not found] ` <485AC120.6010202@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <485AC5D4.6040302@goop.org>
[not found] ` <485ACA8F.10006@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <485ACD92.8050109@sgi.com>
2008-06-19 21:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-19 21:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-19 22:13 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-19 22:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 17:49 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-19 22:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <485BDB04.4090709@sgi.com>
2008-06-20 17:25 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 17:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-20 18:30 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-20 18:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 18:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 18:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-20 19:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 19:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-20 19:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-20 20:04 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-20 20:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-20 19:06 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-20 20:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-20 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 16:55 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-23 17:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-23 18:04 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-23 18:36 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-23 19:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-24 0:02 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 17:07 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 17:57 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 20:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-30 21:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 8:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 16:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 16:55 ` Mike Travis [this message]
2008-07-01 16:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 17:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 21:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 21:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 21:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-02 0:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02 1:15 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02 1:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-02 1:51 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02 2:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-02 1:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02 1:44 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02 1:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02 1:55 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02 22:50 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-03 4:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-07 17:17 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-07 19:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-08 18:21 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-08 23:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-08 23:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 14:39 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 20:06 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 20:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 20:34 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 20:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 21:05 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 14:37 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 22:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 23:30 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 0:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-02 2:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02 3:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 21:11 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-01 21:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 12:09 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-01 11:49 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 17:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 0:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: Replace xxx_pda() operations with x86_xx_percpu() Mike Travis
2008-06-09 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 16:08 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-09 17:36 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-09 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-09 23:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 10:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-10 15:07 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-04 10:18 ` [PATCH] x86: collapse the various size-dependent percpu accessors together Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 10:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 11:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-04 12:09 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 17:21 ` Christoph Lameter
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