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From: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [crash, bisected] Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:51:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <486ADF06.1020006@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17ic5f4uh.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com> writes:
> 
>> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>>> Yes, and there's no reason we couldn't do the same on 64-bit, aside
>>>> from the stack-protector's use of %gs:40.  There's no code-size cost
>>>> in large offsets, since they're always 32-bits anyway (there's no
>>>> short absolute addressing mode).
>>>>
>>>> If we manually generate %gs-relative references to percpu data, then
>>>> it's no different to what we do with 32-bit, whether it be a specific
>>>> symbol address or using the TLS relocations.
>>>>
>>> If we think the problem is the zero-basing triggering linker bugs, we
>>> should probably just use a small offset, like 64 (put a small dummy
>>> section before the .percpu.data section to occupy this section.)
>>>
>>> I'm going to play with this a bit and see if I come up with something
>>> sanish.
>>>
>>>     -hpa
>> One interesting thing I've discovered is the gcc --version may make a
>> difference.
>>
>> The kernel panic that occurred from Ingo's config, I was able to replicate
>> with GCC 4.2.0 (which is on our devel server).  But this one complained
>> about not being able to handle the STACK-PROTECTOR option so I moved
>> everything to another machine that has 4.2.4, and now it seems that it
>> works fine.  I'm still re-verifying that the source bits and config options 
>> are identical (it was a later git-remote update), and that in fact it is
>> the gcc --version, but that may be the conclusion.  (My code also has some
>> patches submitted but not yet included in the tip/master tree.  Curiously
>> just enabling some debug options changed the footprint of the panic.)
>>
>> Are we allowed to insist on a specific level of GCC for compiling the
>> kernel?
> 
> Depends on the root cause.  If it turns out to be something that is buggy
> in gcc and we can't work around.  We might do something.  I don't recall
> that kind of thing happening often.  I think our minimum gcc is currently
> gcc-3.4.
> 
> Eric

Ouch.  How far into it do we need to investigate?  I can surely compare the
vmlinux object files, but I'm not cognizant enough about the linker internals
to examine much more than that.

But hey, maybe gcc-3.4 will work ok...?  ;-)

[Or it may be the stack-protector thing is introducing better code?  I'll try
some more config options tomorrow to see if that affects anything.]

Cheers,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-02  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04  0:30 [PATCH 0/4] percpu: Optimize percpu accesses Mike Travis
2008-06-04  0:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] Zero based percpu: Infrastructure to rebase the per cpu area to zero Mike Travis
2008-06-10 10:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-04  0:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: Extend percpu ops to 64 bit Mike Travis
2008-06-10 10:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-04  0:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area Mike Travis
2008-06-04 12:59   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 13:48     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-04 13:58       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 14:17         ` Mike Travis
2008-06-09 23:18     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-05 10:22   ` [crash, bisected] " Ingo Molnar
2008-06-05 16:02     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-06  8:29       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-06 13:15         ` Mike Travis
2008-06-18  5:34           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 21:31     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-18 17:36       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-18 18:17         ` Mike Travis
2008-06-18 18:33           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-18 19:33           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]             ` <48596893.4040908@sgi.com>
     [not found]               ` <485AADAC.3070301@sgi.com>
     [not found]                 ` <485AB78B.5090904@goop.org>
     [not found]                   ` <485AC120.6010202@sgi.com>
     [not found]                     ` <485AC5D4.6040302@goop.org>
     [not found]                       ` <485ACA8F.10006@sgi.com>
     [not found]                         ` <485ACD92.8050109@sgi.com>
2008-06-19 21:35                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-19 21:54                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-19 22:13                             ` Mike Travis
2008-06-19 22:21                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 17:49                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-19 22:23                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]                                 ` <485BDB04.4090709@sgi.com>
2008-06-20 17:25                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 17:48                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-20 18:30                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-06-20 18:40                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 18:37                                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 18:51                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-20 19:04                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-20 19:21                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-20 19:43                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-20 20:04                                               ` Mike Travis
2008-06-20 20:37                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-20 19:06                                         ` Mike Travis
2008-06-20 20:25                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-20 20:55                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 16:55                                             ` Mike Travis
2008-06-23 17:33                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-23 18:04                                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-23 18:36                                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-06-23 19:41                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-24  0:02                                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 17:07                                             ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 17:18                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 17:57                                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 20:50                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-30 21:08                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01  8:40                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 16:27                                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 16:55                                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-01 16:56                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 17:26                                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:40                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 21:10                                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 21:39                                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 21:52                                                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-02  0:20                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02  1:15                                                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02  1:32                                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-02  1:51                                                                           ` Mike Travis [this message]
2008-07-02  2:50                                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-02  1:40                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02  1:44                                                                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02  1:45                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02  1:55                                                                             ` Mike Travis
2008-07-02 22:50                                                                             ` Mike Travis
2008-07-03  4:34                                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-07 17:17                                                                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-07 19:46                                                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-08 18:21                                                                                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-08 23:36                                                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-08 23:49                                                                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 14:39                                                                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 20:06                                                                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 20:12                                                                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 20:34                                                                                               ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 20:43                                                                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 21:05                                                                                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 14:37                                                                                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 22:38                                                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 23:30                                                                                             ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10  0:04                                                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-02  2:01                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02  3:08                                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 21:11                                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-01 21:42                                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 18:41                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-01 12:09                                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-01 11:49                                                     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-30 17:43                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04  0:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: Replace xxx_pda() operations with x86_xx_percpu() Mike Travis
2008-06-09 13:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 16:08     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-09 17:36     ` Mike Travis
2008-06-09 18:20       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-09 23:29         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 10:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-10 15:07         ` Mike Travis
2008-06-04 10:18 ` [PATCH] x86: collapse the various size-dependent percpu accessors together Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 10:45   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 11:29     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-04 12:09       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-10 17:21         ` Christoph Lameter

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