From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
"yamamoto@valinux.co.jp" <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: handle shmem's swap cache (Was 2.6.26-rc8-mm1
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:11:10 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <486F0976.7010104@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080704180913.bb1a3fc6.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> My swapcache accounting under memcg patch failed to catch tmpfs(shmem)'s one.
> Can I test this under -mm tree ?
> (If -mm is busy, I'm not in hurry.)
> This patch works well in my box.
> =
> SwapCache handling fix.
>
> shmem's swapcache behavior is a little different from anonymous's one and
> memcg failed to handle it. This patch tries to fix it.
>
> After this:
>
> Any page marked as SwapCache is not uncharged. (delelte_from_swap_cache()
> delete the SwapCache flag.)
>
> To check a shmem-page-cache is alive or not we use
> page->mapping && !PageAnon(page) instead of
> pc->flags & PAGE_CGROUP_FLAG_CACHE.
>
> Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Though I am not opposed to this, I do sit up and think if keeping the reference
count around could avoid this complexity and from my point, the maintenance
overhead of this logic/code (I fear there might be more special cases :( )
The trade-off is complexity versus the overhead of reference counting.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
"yamamoto@valinux.co.jp" <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: handle shmem's swap cache (Was 2.6.26-rc8-mm1
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:11:10 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <486F0976.7010104@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080704180913.bb1a3fc6.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> My swapcache accounting under memcg patch failed to catch tmpfs(shmem)'s one.
> Can I test this under -mm tree ?
> (If -mm is busy, I'm not in hurry.)
> This patch works well in my box.
> =
> SwapCache handling fix.
>
> shmem's swapcache behavior is a little different from anonymous's one and
> memcg failed to handle it. This patch tries to fix it.
>
> After this:
>
> Any page marked as SwapCache is not uncharged. (delelte_from_swap_cache()
> delete the SwapCache flag.)
>
> To check a shmem-page-cache is alive or not we use
> page->mapping && !PageAnon(page) instead of
> pc->flags & PAGE_CGROUP_FLAG_CACHE.
>
> Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Though I am not opposed to this, I do sit up and think if keeping the reference
count around could avoid this complexity and from my point, the maintenance
overhead of this logic/code (I fear there might be more special cases :( )
The trade-off is complexity versus the overhead of reference counting.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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2008-07-03 9:02 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 9:02 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 9:02 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 11:22 ` [BUILD-FAILURE] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - build failure at drivers/char/hvc_rtas.c Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-03 11:22 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-03 11:59 ` [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin" KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-03 11:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-03 12:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 12:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-03 13:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-07-03 13:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 13:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 13:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 13:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 17:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03 17:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03 18:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 18:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 19:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-07-03 19:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 19:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 20:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 20:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 21:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 21:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 21:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 21:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 22:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 22:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 22:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-03 22:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-03 23:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 23:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-03 23:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 2:31 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-07-04 2:31 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-07-03 23:21 ` David Miller
2008-07-03 23:21 ` David Miller, David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 0:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 0:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 1:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:47 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 1:47 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 0:24 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 0:24 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 1:28 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 1:28 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 2:42 ` david
2008-07-04 2:42 ` david
2008-07-04 10:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 10:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:27 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 13:27 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 13:48 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:48 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Miller
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 21:04 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 21:04 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 20:17 ` david
2008-07-06 20:17 ` david
2008-07-06 20:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 20:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 20:52 ` david
2008-07-06 20:52 ` david
2008-07-06 20:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 20:56 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 21:03 ` david
2008-07-06 21:03 ` david
2008-07-06 21:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 21:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 22:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 22:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 6:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 6:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 17:52 ` Rick Jones
2008-07-07 17:52 ` Rick Jones
2008-07-04 13:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 14:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 23:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-06 23:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 17:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 17:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:30 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:30 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 19:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 18:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 18:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-07 20:48 ` David Miller
2008-07-07 20:48 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 20:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 20:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:45 ` David Miller
2008-07-07 21:45 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-07 21:58 ` David Miller
2008-07-07 21:58 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-08 6:36 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08 6:36 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-08 8:57 ` David Miller
2008-07-08 8:57 ` David Miller, Alan Cox
2008-07-04 14:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 18:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 18:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:28 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-04 20:28 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-05 4:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 4:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 4:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 20:39 ` David Miller
2008-07-04 20:39 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2008-07-04 14:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2008-07-04 14:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 21:34 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 21:34 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 22:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 22:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 0:06 ` Gene Heskett
2008-07-04 23:13 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-04 23:13 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-04 23:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-04 23:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-04 23:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 0:51 ` Trent Piepho
2008-07-05 0:51 ` Trent Piepho
2008-07-05 3:52 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 3:52 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 6:01 ` Bill Fink
2008-07-05 6:01 ` Bill Fink
2008-07-05 13:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 13:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-07-05 4:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 4:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 7:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-05 7:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-05 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 10:53 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 10:53 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 12:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:16 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 12:16 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 13:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 13:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-05 14:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 14:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-05 15:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 15:10 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 17:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 17:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 20:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 20:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 10:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-06 10:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-06 10:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 10:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-06 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-06 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-06 12:22 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 14:24 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:24 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:24 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-04 14:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-05 10:26 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-05 10:26 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-05 10:26 ` maximilian attems
2008-07-04 14:31 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:31 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:37 ` David Miller
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2008-07-04 20:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:43 ` David Woodhouse
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2008-07-04 20:52 ` David Miller
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2008-07-04 21:05 ` David Woodhouse
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2008-07-05 4:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2008-07-04 20:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 20:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-04 21:12 ` David Woodhouse
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2008-07-04 21:10 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 21:10 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-04 20:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 20:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 4:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 4:04 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 20:34 ` David Miller
2008-07-03 20:34 ` David Miller, Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 20:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-03 20:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-09 20:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-09 20:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-07-04 11:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 11:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:26 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-07-04 13:28 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:28 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 13:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-04 14:13 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-05 6:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-05 6:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-04 13:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-03 16:10 ` Chuck Lever
2008-07-03 16:10 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <20080703020236.adaa51fa.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-03 12:29 ` [BUILD-FAILURE] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - x86 - __ptep_modify_prot_start() missing Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-03 12:29 ` Kamalesh Babulal
[not found] ` <20080703122943.GB6451-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-03 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 17:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 18:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <486D13C3.3000409-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-03 18:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 18:14 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20080703111418.19f568ca.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-03 19:03 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-07-03 19:03 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-07-04 22:49 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1: unable to mount nfs shares Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-07-04 22:49 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2008-07-04 22:49 ` Mariusz Kozlowski
[not found] ` <200807050049.33287.m.kozlowski-NWF1p15JEu3VItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-04 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-04 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-04 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-08 14:42 ` [BUG] 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - sleeping function called from invalid context at include/linux/pagemap.h:291 Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-08 14:42 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-07-08 14:42 ` Kamalesh Babulal
[not found] ` <48737CBE.4010301-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-12 7:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-12 7:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-12 7:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-07-03 14:26 ` WARNING at acpi/.../utmisc.c:1043 [Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 14:26 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 14:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 14:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-07-03 23:35 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing formware Grant Coady
2008-07-03 23:35 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-04 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-03 23:42 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1--No e100 :( logs say missing firmware Grant Coady
2008-07-03 23:42 ` Grant Coady
2008-07-04 2:48 ` Question: split-lur // Re: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 2:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:02 ` memcg: lru scan fix (Was: 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 19:16 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-04 19:16 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-04 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-04 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-05 3:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 3:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:09 ` [PATCH] memcg: handle shmem's swap cache (Was 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-04 9:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 5:41 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-07-05 5:41 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 6:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 6:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-07-05 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 6:49 ` Balbir Singh
2008-07-05 8:16 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-05 8:16 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-07-09 21:33 ` 2.6.26-rc8-mm1 - Missing AC97 power save Kconfig? Zan Lynx
2008-07-09 21:33 ` Zan Lynx
2008-07-09 22:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-09 22:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-07-09 22:34 ` Zan Lynx
2008-07-09 22:34 ` Zan Lynx
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