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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:31:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <488635A7.2030609@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y0mabg991c3.fsf@ton.toronto.redhat.com>

Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com> writes:
>
>   
>> [...]
>> kvm tracepoints are heavily tied into the implementation; and making
>> them harder to write means we will have less information.  In fact, I
>> am contemplating moving in another direction (when looking at the
>> pgprintk()s scattered around arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c:
>>
>>   kvm_trace("pfentry", "page_fault entry addr %lx error code %x\n",
>> cr2, error_code);
>>
>> Unlike printk()s, no actual formatting would occur during runtime.
>>     
>
> Have you considered using trace_mark() directly - eliminating the
> KVM_TRACEN() middlemen?
>
>   

Eliminating KVM_TRACEN -- yes.  There are too many of them, they aren't 
type-aware, and they're in uppercase.

Using trace_mark() directly -- looking at it, seems to fit the 
requirements exactly.  Should have looked at it earlier.  Is there a way 
to get a list of all markers?

Perhaps the kvmtrace marker->relay integration should be made a marker 
feature, since there is nothing specific to kvm in it.

>> Instead, at initialization time all the strings would be parsed into
>> a data structure that describes the data types, and the runtime
>> would simply consult this structure and copy the arguments into
>> trace records.  User space would also be able to pull this structure
>> and so recreate the formatted string.
>>     
>
> If one really wanted to, one could build such a mechanism on top of
> marker-based callbacks.
>
>   

One does want to.

>>  - no need to have a formats file in userspace (which is tied to the
>> kernel version)
>>     
>
> OTOH, you'd have the kernel collecting compact binary records
> containing just the parameters, which are at least as tied to kernel
> version.
>
>   

Yes, but the userspace side would collect the format strings as well 
(just once) and could put them in the same file.  The aggregation is 
portable across kernel versions.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-22 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-17 15:57 [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 1/4] kvm move VMCS Encodings to system headers Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 2/4] kvm move VMCS read " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 3/4] KVM move register read-write " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 4/4] KVM-trace port to tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 16:49   ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-17 17:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-22 16:04       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-22 18:46         ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  7:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23  8:08             ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  8:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23  9:32                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  9:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23 13:15                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-23 10:03                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-23 10:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23 10:13                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-23 13:20               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 16:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-17 17:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-22 18:42 ` [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace " Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 19:16   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 19:31     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-07-22 19:54       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 22:12       ` [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints -> LTTng ? Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-27 10:11         ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-28  0:54           ` [RFC] LTTng merge plan Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-28  0:54             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-29 16:18             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-29 16:18               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-29 17:01               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-29 17:01                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <20080729211543.GB17097@redhat.com>
2008-07-29 22:41                   ` module-placed markers/tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-29 23:01                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-29 23:19                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-30  1:40                     ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-30  2:27                       ` [PATCH] Module : call synchronize_sched() between module exit() and free Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-30  3:04                         ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-30  4:05                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-30 11:40                         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-30 14:09                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-31  0:54                             ` Rusty Russell

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