[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Geraldo Netto]

Hi guys,

how are you doing?

guys, i'm trying to make u-boot for x86
i tried the steps at http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/Manual
but i was not able to make it work on x86
does anyone have any tip/doc(s) on how to make u-boot work on x86?
i'd really appreciate that help :P

Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

Geraldo
S?o Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt
site: http://exdev.sf.net/
msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com
skype: geraldo-netto
icq: 145-061-456

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Albert ARIBAUD]

Geraldo Netto a ?crit :

> i tried the steps at http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/Manual
> but i was not able to make it work on x86
> does anyone have any tip/doc(s) on how to make u-boot work on x86?
> i'd really appreciate that help :P

Hello,

You *might* get some help if you specify what exactly you tried, what 
succeeded, what did not succeed and what was the actual vs expected 
outcome of the unsuccessful step, including error messages.

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Geraldo Netto]

Hi Albert,
Thank you very much for your support/help :)
i actually didn't want be harsh  with my words :(
i'm pretty newbie, *really*
and what i did is:

sudo tar xjvf u-boot-1.3.3.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src

then i tried:

make distclean canyonlands_config all
(as i read at http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootConfiguration )

and i got:

mbdev-deb:/usr/src/u-boot-1.3.3# make distclean canyonlands_config all
Configuring for canyonlands board...
System not configured - see README
make: ** [all] Erro 1

also, as you all can easely see, i was not able to 'configure' the system
i tried many other things in a 'adhoc' way and i still not able to
handle this :(

Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

Geraldo
S?o Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt
site: http://exdev.sf.net/
msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com
skype: geraldo-netto
icq: 145-061-456



2008/7/26 Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>:
> Geraldo Netto a ?crit :
>
>> i tried the steps at http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/Manual
>> but i was not able to make it work on x86
>> does anyone have any tip/doc(s) on how to make u-boot work on x86?
>> i'd really appreciate that help :P
>
> Hello,
>
> You *might* get some help if you specify what exactly you tried, what
> succeeded, what did not succeed and what was the actual vs expected outcome
> of the unsuccessful step, including error messages.
>
> Amicalement,
> --
> Albert.
>

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Ben Warren]

Hi Geraldo,

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Geraldo Netto <geraldonetto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Albert,
> Thank you very much for your support/help :)
> i actually didn't want be harsh  with my words :(
> i'm pretty newbie, *really*

I haven't tried to build U-boot for x86 target, but am led to believe
that it's not easy.  If you're a newbie, it may not be for you.

> and what i did is:
>
> sudo tar xjvf u-boot-1.3.3.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src
>
> then i tried:
>
> make distclean canyonlands_config all
> (as i read at http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootConfiguration )
>

Each target has a config file in include/configs.  When you 'make'
canyonlands_config, you're telling the build system to set things up
for a target called 'canyonlands'.  This target is a PowerPC target,
not x86.  You need to find one that's close to your hardware or make
your own.

> and i got:
>
> mbdev-deb:/usr/src/u-boot-1.3.3# make distclean canyonlands_config all
> Configuring for canyonlands board...
> System not configured - see README
> make: ** [all] Erro 1
>
> also, as you all can easely see, i was not able to 'configure' the system
> i tried many other things in a 'adhoc' way and i still not able to
> handle this :(
>

You're seriously missing some big concepts and trying things without
understanding them will only lead to pain.  Ask yourself why you want
U-boot on an x86 target.  Grub or Lilo may be a better fit.

regards,
Ben

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <faf3083f0807261131t57aa2d05ib1f8a4c85960266d@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>
> sudo tar xjvf u-boot-1.3.3.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src
> 
> then i tried:
> 
> make distclean canyonlands_config all
> (as i read at http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootConfiguration )

You mention "u-boot on x86" in the subjct - are you aware that the
Canyonlands board is not x86, but PPC?

What you should do is:

	make distclean
	make canyonlands_config
	make all

Do not try to perform all there steps in a single call to make - this
cannot work.

> mbdev-deb:/usr/src/u-boot-1.3.3# make distclean canyonlands_config all
> Configuring for canyonlands board...
> System not configured - see README
> make: ** [all] Erro 1

This is caused by your incorrect call to make - see above.

> also, as you all can easely see, i was not able to 'configure' the system
> i tried many other things in a 'adhoc' way and i still not able to
> handle this :(

Please read the manual - it describes step by step what to do.
If you had follwed the examples, aboveerror could have been avoided.
See http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/Manual?stickboard=canyonlands

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
If there are self-made purgatories, then we all have to live in them.
	-- Spock, "This Side of Paradise", stardate 3417.7

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Geraldo Netto]

Hi :)

regarding ppc boards,oh, i didn't know that
actually i'm a 22yo newbie guy which is interested in u-boot
because i do study information systems in Brazil and i'm doing a
linux distro for thin clients(as a final course project->monograph+software)
and i got interested in u-boot because it seems the *correct*
bootloader for my project
ie: it seems far smaller than other ones and at once offers many features :)
and i also studied/setup grub/lilo/syslinux :)
i need to compare bootloaders and write down the features of each one and show
which bootloader is better for each case
ie: which one has 'best' features for diskless boot;
which one is better for local boot(size, 'dinamyc configuration(ie:
pass parameter on the fly)',...,...;
...

Kind Regards and Best Wishes,

Geraldo
S?o Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt
site: http://exdev.sf.net/
msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com
skype: geraldo-netto
icq: 145-061-456



2008/7/26 Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>:
> In message <faf3083f0807261131t57aa2d05ib1f8a4c85960266d@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>>
>> sudo tar xjvf u-boot-1.3.3.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src
>>
>> then i tried:
>>
>> make distclean canyonlands_config all
>> (as i read at http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootConfiguration )
>
> You mention "u-boot on x86" in the subjct - are you aware that the
> Canyonlands board is not x86, but PPC?
>
> What you should do is:
>
>        make distclean
>        make canyonlands_config
>        make all
>
> Do not try to perform all there steps in a single call to make - this
> cannot work.
>
>> mbdev-deb:/usr/src/u-boot-1.3.3# make distclean canyonlands_config all
>> Configuring for canyonlands board...
>> System not configured - see README
>> make: ** [all] Erro 1
>
> This is caused by your incorrect call to make - see above.
>
>> also, as you all can easely see, i was not able to 'configure' the system
>> i tried many other things in a 'adhoc' way and i still not able to
>> handle this :(
>
> Please read the manual - it describes step by step what to do.
> If you had follwed the examples, aboveerror could have been avoided.
> See http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/Manual?stickboard=canyonlands
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
> --
> DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
> HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
> Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
> If there are self-made purgatories, then we all have to live in them.
>        -- Spock, "This Side of Paradise", stardate 3417.7
>

[U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

[Alan Carvalho de Assis]

Hi Geraldo,
your final course project appear very interesting.

As others guys already said porting U-Boot to your board is a hard
work. Verifying Makefile I found for i386 only AMD SC520 boards are
supported.

I think you can use coreboot (formerly LinuxBIOS) and FILO to boot your board.

If your thin client board is not supported
(http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards) you can use VIA
pc2500 board that is being mass produced here in Brazil and is cheap.

You can use this tutorial as start point if you don't have a supported hardware:
http://www.coreboot.org/QEMU_Build_Tutorial

Best Regards,

Alan

2008/7/26 Geraldo Netto <geraldonetto@gmail.com>:
> Hi :)
>
> regarding ppc boards,oh, i didn't know that
> actually i'm a 22yo newbie guy which is interested in u-boot
> because i do study information systems in Brazil and i'm doing a
> linux distro for thin clients(as a final course project->monograph+software)
> and i got interested in u-boot because it seems the *correct*
> bootloader for my project
> ie: it seems far smaller than other ones and at once offers many features :)
> and i also studied/setup grub/lilo/syslinux :)
> i need to compare bootloaders and write down the features of each one and show
> which bootloader is better for each case
> ie: which one has 'best' features for diskless boot;
> which one is better for local boot(size, 'dinamyc configuration(ie:
> pass parameter on the fly)',...,...;
> ...
>
> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>
> Geraldo
> S?o Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt
> site: http://exdev.sf.net/
> msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com
> skype: geraldo-netto
> icq: 145-061-456
>
>
>
> 2008/7/26 Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>:
>> In message <faf3083f0807261131t57aa2d05ib1f8a4c85960266d@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>>>
>>> sudo tar xjvf u-boot-1.3.3.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src
>>>
>>> then i tried:
>>>
>>> make distclean canyonlands_config all
>>> (as i read at http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootConfiguration )
>>
>> You mention "u-boot on x86" in the subjct - are you aware that the
>> Canyonlands board is not x86, but PPC?
>>
>> What you should do is:
>>
>>        make distclean
>>        make canyonlands_config
>>        make all
>>
>> Do not try to perform all there steps in a single call to make - this
>> cannot work.
>>
>>> mbdev-deb:/usr/src/u-boot-1.3.3# make distclean canyonlands_config all
>>> Configuring for canyonlands board...
>>> System not configured - see README
>>> make: ** [all] Erro 1
>>
>> This is caused by your incorrect call to make - see above.
>>
>>> also, as you all can easely see, i was not able to 'configure' the system
>>> i tried many other things in a 'adhoc' way and i still not able to
>>> handle this :(
>>
>> Please read the manual - it describes step by step what to do.
>> If you had follwed the examples, aboveerror could have been avoided.
>> See http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/Manual?stickboard=canyonlands
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Wolfgang Denk
>>
>> --
>> DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
>> HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
>> Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
>> If there are self-made purgatories, then we all have to live in them.
>>        -- Spock, "This Side of Paradise", stardate 3417.7
>>
>
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