Request for multiple mailing lists

[Vikram Ambrose <Vikram.Ambrose@windriver.com>]

The SE Linux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov> mailing list is being cluttered 
with non selinux related material.

Especially concerning refpolicy. And there is no set fast term used for 
filtering such content, and needless to say a waste of bandwidth.

The SELinux list is not a place for non-SELinux maintainers, like Tresys 
to discuss their policies within themselves. Would it be alright for me 
and the other developers in my company to use the SELinux list to 
discuss our policies? Or the next company that decides to adopt SELinux? 
RedHat goes as far as to using the SELinux list as a communication 
channel with Tresys. Unless there has been some agreement made between 
the SELinux gatekeepers (NSA?) , Tresys and Redhat, I find this a misuse 
of the mailing list.

In the last 4 months, there have only been a handful of unique threads 
concerning SELinux. A few by Stepehen, Eric, and myself. Everything else 
is policy related.  With a total of 800 odd messages in this time frame, 
its quite clear the policy discussion is cluttering the list. As more 
and more people begin to adopt SELinux and face the battles of SELinux 
integration, the userspace topic will become increasingly popular.

As I see it, the current list should be split into 3.

1. selinux-kernel
    This would be a very low volume list. .Perhaps even with special 
clearance to address security holes and concerns.
2. selinux-userspace
    This list would deal with userspace tools, wrappers and other non 
kernel related material. Whether it be NSA's userspace tools or support 
for 3rd party applications being compiled to be selinux-aware using 
libselinux. This list is very important, if not the most important of 
the three.
3. selinux-policy
    This list will deal with policies. A good place for Administrators 
and policy developers to discuss the creation, debugging and use of 
various policies. This as it stands would have the highest volume. 
Nevertheless as suggested by Grift Dominick on #selinux, a forum would 
be an even better place to discuss policies. Repository of ideas, 
designs and development dedicated to policies. A forum for the 
Administrator and Policy Developer.

Without this breakdown, the selinux list would be analogous to people 
talking about GNU and C programming on lkml.


Vikram.

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