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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"dri-users@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<dri-users@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
Subject: Re: AGP and PAT (induced?) problem (on AMD family 6)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:50:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48ABF6DC.8070305@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080820100440.GE28492@elte.hu>

On 20-08-08 12:04, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> * Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I'd really like a reply from the AGP or PAT side right about now.
>> Hmm. Looks like there are more than 16000 entries in the PAT list!
> 
> hm, btw., why is that?

Because 64M of AGP memory divided by 4K pages is 16K. That is, the 
underlying problem seems to be AGP drivers using order 0 allocations. 
I'm looking.

Do note also that this means that Venki's change would not constitite a 
correct/final fix. Sure, caching the last entry speeds up traversing a 
16K entry list but the issue is that there shouldn't be a 16K entry 
list. Through AGP, or maybe even by coalescing entries in the PAT list 
if that's at all possible (I guess it's not really).

Even if such a more fundamental fix isn't (easily) available, the PAT 
code already comments that the list, which is sorted by ->start value, 
is expected to be short, and should be turned into an rbtree if it isn't 
which might be slightly less of a bandaid.

Dave Airlie (as the MAINTAINERS entry) can't be arsed to answer email it 
seems so I've added Dave Jones for a possible comment from the AGP side.
If I'm reading this right upto now, still many AGP driver (among which 
my amd-k7-agp) are affected.

In the short run and if I'm not just mistaken, the best fix might be to 
make PAT dependent on not having a dumb AGP driver (but as said, still 
looking).

Note that my chipset is capable of a 2G AGP aperture. That's 512K pages 
if fully used, 256K for 1G, 128K for 512M, ...

Rene.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-20 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-04 16:30 AGP and PAT (induced?) problem (on AMD family 6) Rene Herman
2008-08-06 13:51 ` Andreas Herrmann
2008-08-06 20:57   ` Rene Herman
2008-08-11  9:46     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-15 14:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-15 15:24   ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 10:11     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 10:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-19 14:19         ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 19:07           ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-19 19:22             ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 23:28               ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-20 10:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 10:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 10:50               ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-08-20 14:27                 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-20 19:41                   ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-20 21:40                     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-20 21:46                       ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-20 22:16                         ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-21  3:42                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21 21:13                             ` Suresh Siddha
2008-08-22  2:12                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21 12:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-21 17:15                             ` Rene Herman
2008-08-21 22:10                               ` [PATCH] x86: {reverve,free}_memtype() take a physical address Rene Herman
2008-08-21 22:16                                 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-08-21 22:26                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-08-21 22:57                                     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-08-21 23:06                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-08-21 23:02                               ` [PATCH] x86: have set_memory_array_{uc,wb} coalesce memtypes Rene Herman
2008-08-22  4:15                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 19:08                                   ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-22 20:15                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-23 15:33                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 20:02                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-09-10 19:52                                     ` AGP PAT issue Rene Herman
2008-09-11  8:17                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-11  8:30                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-09-13  0:26                                           ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-09-13  0:44                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-10-09 15:53                                               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2008-10-13 17:10                                                 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-10-13 19:26                                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-08-20 21:02                 ` AGP and PAT (induced?) problem (on AMD family 6) Dave Airlie
2008-08-20 21:16                   ` Rene Herman

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