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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: have set_memory_array_{uc,wb} coalesce memtypes.
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:15:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48AF1E67.2030509@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080822190817.GA17381@linux-os.sc.intel.com>

On 22-08-08 21:08, Venki Pallipadi wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 09:15:44PM -0700, Ingo Molnar wrote:

>> Venki, Suresh, Shaohua, Dave, Arjan - any observations about this
>> line of action?
> 
> The concern I have here is that the coalescing is not guaranteed to
> work. We may still end up having horrible worst case latency, even
> though this improves the normal case (boot the system, start X, exit
> X, reboot the system). It depends on how pages are allocated and how
> much memory is there in the system and what else is running etc.

Yes, I agree. Independent of the current trigger PAT wants a more 
scalable approach and yes, worst case is still single page entries.

That worst case is the guaranteed case now though, so I do feel it's a 
generic fix. After all, there wouldn't seem to be a reason to _not_ 
coalesce in set_memory_array_{uc,wb}().

> Here on my test system, without this coalescing change I see
> 
> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/sys/debug/x86/pat_memtype_list | wc -l
> 19528
> 
> With the coalescing change I see
> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/sys/debug/x86/pat_memtype_list | wc -l
> 135
> 
> quit and restart X
> [root@localhost ~]# cat /proc/sys/debug/x86/pat_memtype_list | wc -l
> 985

[ constantly growing number of entries ]

Yes, absolutely right, PAT definitely needs something other than the 
simple linked list. I do believe we also want the coalescing change 
though - it seems to make sense regardless of trigger and it's only 
little code.

> I think this as a good workaround for now. But, for long run we still need to
> look at other ways of eliminating this overhead (like using page struct
> that Suresh mentioned in the other thread).
> 
> 
> Also, there seems to be a bug in the error path of the patch. Below should
> fix it.

Ah, yes, thanks, just sent out a final version with this fixed as well.

Rene.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-22 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-04 16:30 AGP and PAT (induced?) problem (on AMD family 6) Rene Herman
2008-08-06 13:51 ` Andreas Herrmann
2008-08-06 20:57   ` Rene Herman
2008-08-11  9:46     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-15 14:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-15 15:24   ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 10:11     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 10:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-19 14:19         ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 19:07           ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-19 19:22             ` Rene Herman
2008-08-19 23:28               ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-20 10:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 10:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 10:50               ` Rene Herman
2008-08-20 14:27                 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-20 19:41                   ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-20 21:40                     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-20 21:46                       ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-20 22:16                         ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-21  3:42                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21 21:13                             ` Suresh Siddha
2008-08-22  2:12                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21 12:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-21 17:15                             ` Rene Herman
2008-08-21 22:10                               ` [PATCH] x86: {reverve,free}_memtype() take a physical address Rene Herman
2008-08-21 22:16                                 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-08-21 22:26                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-08-21 22:57                                     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-08-21 23:06                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-08-21 23:02                               ` [PATCH] x86: have set_memory_array_{uc,wb} coalesce memtypes Rene Herman
2008-08-22  4:15                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 19:08                                   ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-08-22 20:15                                     ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-08-23 15:33                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 20:02                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-09-10 19:52                                     ` AGP PAT issue Rene Herman
2008-09-11  8:17                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-11  8:30                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-09-13  0:26                                           ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-09-13  0:44                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-10-09 15:53                                               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2008-10-13 17:10                                                 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-10-13 19:26                                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-08-20 21:02                 ` AGP and PAT (induced?) problem (on AMD family 6) Dave Airlie
2008-08-20 21:16                   ` Rene Herman

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