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From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: rpm@xenomai.org
Cc: Xenomai-core@domain.hid
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] Racy pse51_mutex_check_init?
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48AFF50D.2080001@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48AFF17F.1080803@domain.hid>

Philippe Gerum wrote:
> Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>> Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>> Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>
>>>> Please do not use my address at gmail, gna does not want me to post from
>>>> this address:
>>>>
>>>> 2008-08-23 12:10:19 1KWq4T-0000zD-9E ** xenomai@xenomai.org <Xenomai-core@domain.hid
>>>>> R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<Xenomai-
>>>> core@domain.hid>: host mail.gna.org [88.191.250.46]: 550 rejected because gmail.com i
>>>> s in a black list at dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
>>>>
>>>> so, here is a repost of my answer:
>>>>
>>>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Gilles,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> trying to understand the cb_read/write lock usage, some question came up
>>>>>> here: What prevents that the mutexq iteration in pse51_mutex_check_init
>>>>>> races against pse51_mutex_destroy_internal?
>>>> Well, I am afraid the mechanism used is not 100% safe. Anyway, the aim
>>>> is to catch most of invalid usages, it seems we can not catch them all.
>>>>
>>>>>> If nothing, then I wonder if we actually have to iterate over the whole
>>>>>> queue to find out whether a given object has been initialized and
>>>>>> registered already or not. Can't this be encoded differently?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, shadow_mutex.mutex is a kernel pointer sitting in a user-reachable
>>>>>> memory region? Why not using a handle here, like the native skin does?
>>>>>> Won't that allow to resolve the issue above as well?
>>>> This has been so from the beginning, and I did not change it.
>>>>
>>> To get registry handles, you first need to register objects. The POSIX skin
>>> still does not use the built-in registry, that's why.
>> Well the registry is about associating objects with their name, and
>> since most posix skin objects have no name, I did not see the point of
>> using the registry. And for the named objects, the nucleus registry was
>> not compatible with the posix skin requirements, which is why I did not
>> use it...
>>
> 
> The thing is that, without built-in registry support, you have no /proc export
> of any status data either.

Yes, I did not see the point at the time when the registry was added,
but I do see it now...

-- 
					    Gilles.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-23 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-23  8:33 [Xenomai-core] Racy pse51_mutex_check_init? Jan Kiszka
2008-08-23 10:21 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 10:34   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 10:53   ` Philippe Gerum
2008-08-23 11:07     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 11:13       ` Philippe Gerum
2008-08-23 11:16       ` Philippe Gerum
2008-08-23 11:31         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2008-08-23 11:31       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-08-23 11:33         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 10:43 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 10:51   ` Jan Kiszka
2008-08-23 10:58     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 11:02       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2008-08-23 11:06         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-08-23 11:24           ` Gilles Chanteperdrix

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