From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
hugh@veritas.com, menage@google.com, xemul@openvz.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page (v3)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:58:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D1DFE0.5010208@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080918134304.93985542.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:40:08 -0700
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>> Advantages of the patch
>>>
>>> 1. It removes the extra pointer in struct page
>>>
>>> Disadvantages
>>>
>>> 1. Radix tree lookup is not an O(1) operation, once the page is known
>>> getting to the page_cgroup (pc) is a little more expensive now.
>> Why are we doing this? I can guess, but I'd rather not have to.
>>
>> a) It's slower.
>>
>> b) It uses even more memory worst-case.
>>
>> c) It uses less memory best-case.
>>
>> someone somewhere decided that (Aa + Bb) / Cc < 1.0. What are the values
>> of A, B and C and where did they come from? ;)
>>
>
> Balbir, don't you like pre-allocate-page-cgroup-at-boot at all ?
> I don't like radix-tree for objects which can spread to very vast/sparse area ;)
>
I tried one version, but before trying a pre-allocation version, I wanted to
spread out the radix-tree and try and the results seemed quite impressive. We
can still do pre-allocation, but it gets more complicated as we start supporting
all memory models. I do have a design on paper, but it is much more complex than
this.
> BTW, I already have lazy-lru-by-pagevec protocol on my patch(hash version) and
> seems to work well. I'm now testing it and will post today if I'm enough lucky.
cool! Please do post what numbers you see as well. I would appreciate if you can
try this version and see what sort of performance issues you see.
--
Balbir
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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
hugh@veritas.com, menage@google.com, xemul@openvz.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page (v3)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:58:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D1DFE0.5010208@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080918134304.93985542.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:40:08 -0700
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>> Advantages of the patch
>>>
>>> 1. It removes the extra pointer in struct page
>>>
>>> Disadvantages
>>>
>>> 1. Radix tree lookup is not an O(1) operation, once the page is known
>>> getting to the page_cgroup (pc) is a little more expensive now.
>> Why are we doing this? I can guess, but I'd rather not have to.
>>
>> a) It's slower.
>>
>> b) It uses even more memory worst-case.
>>
>> c) It uses less memory best-case.
>>
>> someone somewhere decided that (Aa + Bb) / Cc < 1.0. What are the values
>> of A, B and C and where did they come from? ;)
>>
>
> Balbir, don't you like pre-allocate-page-cgroup-at-boot at all ?
> I don't like radix-tree for objects which can spread to very vast/sparse area ;)
>
I tried one version, but before trying a pre-allocation version, I wanted to
spread out the radix-tree and try and the results seemed quite impressive. We
can still do pre-allocation, but it gets more complicated as we start supporting
all memory models. I do have a design on paper, but it is much more complex than
this.
> BTW, I already have lazy-lru-by-pagevec protocol on my patch(hash version) and
> seems to work well. I'm now testing it and will post today if I'm enough lucky.
cool! Please do post what numbers you see as well. I would appreciate if you can
try this version and see what sort of performance issues you see.
--
Balbir
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2008-08-31 17:47 [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page Balbir Singh
2008-08-31 17:47 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 0:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 0:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 3:28 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 3:28 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 4:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 4:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 5:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 5:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 6:16 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 6:16 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 6:09 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 6:09 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 6:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 6:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 6:25 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 6:25 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 6:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 6:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 6:56 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-01 6:56 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-01 7:17 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 7:17 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 7:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 7:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 7:43 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-01 7:43 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-02 9:24 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 9:24 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 10:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 9:58 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 9:58 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 10:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 10:12 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:12 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 10:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 10:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-02 12:37 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 12:37 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-03 3:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-03 3:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-03 7:31 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-03 7:31 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-08 15:28 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-08 15:28 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 3:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 3:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 3:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 3:58 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 4:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 4:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 5:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 5:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 5:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 5:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 12:24 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 12:24 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 12:28 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 12:28 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 12:30 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-09-09 12:30 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-09-09 12:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 12:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 1:20 ` [Approach #2] " Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 1:20 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 1:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 1:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 2:11 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 2:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 2:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 20:44 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 20:44 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 11:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 11:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 21:02 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 21:02 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 11:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 11:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 14:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 14:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:21 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:21 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:31 ` David Miller
2008-09-10 22:31 ` David Miller, Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:36 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:36 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10 22:56 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-10 22:56 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-11 1:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-11 1:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-11 1:47 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-11 1:47 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-11 1:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-11 1:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-17 23:28 ` [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page (v3) Balbir Singh
2008-09-17 23:28 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18 1:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-18 1:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-18 3:57 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18 3:57 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18 5:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 5:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 4:26 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18 4:26 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18 4:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 4:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 6:13 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18 6:13 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-09-18 4:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 4:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 4:58 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-09-18 4:58 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18 5:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 5:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 11:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 11:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-18 23:56 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18 23:56 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-19 0:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-10 22:38 ` [Approach #2] [RFC][PATCH] Remove cgroup member from struct page Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 22:38 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-09 4:18 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 4:18 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-09 4:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 4:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 7:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-09 7:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 2:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 2:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-01 3:42 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 3:42 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 9:03 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01 9:03 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-01 9:43 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01 9:43 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-09-01 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-01 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 7:35 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-02 7:35 ` Balbir Singh
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