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From: "Timo Teräs" <timo.teras@iki.fi>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xfrm_state locking regression...
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:21:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D66677.2040309@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48D63E3A.90301@iki.fi>

Timo Teräs wrote:
> Herbert Xu wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:25:13PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
>> I've avoided the memory barrier by simply extending the mutexed
>> section in the GC to cover the list splicing.  Here's the updated
>> patch:
>>
>> ipsec: Use RCU-like construct for saved state within a walk
>>
>> Now that we save states within a walk we need synchronisation
>> so that the list the saved state is on doesn't disappear from
>> under us.
>>
>> As it stands this is done by keeping the state on the list which
>> is bad because it gets in the way of the management of the state
>> life-cycle.
>>
>> An alternative is to make our own pseudo-RCU system where we use
>> counters to indicate which state can't be freed immediately as
>> it may be referenced by an ongoing walk when that resumes.
> 
> Does not this logic fail if:
> 1. completed = ongoing
> 2. 1st walk started and iterator kept (a->lastused = ongoing, ongoing++)
> 3. 2nd walk started and iterator kept (b->lastused = ongoing, ongoing++)
> 4. 2nd walk finished (completed++)
> 5. gc triggered: a gets deleted since a->lastused == completed
> 6. 1st walk continued but freed memory accessed as a was deleted
> 
> Though currently it does not affect, since xfrm_state_hold/_put
> are still called when keeping the iterator, so the entries won't
> actually get garbage collected anyway. So the completed/ongoing
> counting is basically useless. Or am I missing something?

Obviously I missed the fact that it prevents deletion of the entries
which the iterator held list node might still point to.

But the flaw still exists: the entries which interator->next points
can be deleted if there is a walking that takes a long time and
meanwhile we get walks that complete fast.

> Wouldn't it be enough to do the list_del_rcu on delete? And
> just keep reference as previously?

So if we do list_del_rcu() on delete, could we also xfrm_state_hold()
the entry pointed to by that list entry. And then on GC we could
xfrm_state_put() the next entry.

- Timo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-21 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-03  2:51 xfrm_state locking regression David Miller
2008-09-03  3:00 ` David Miller
2008-09-03  5:01 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-03  5:07   ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-03  5:23     ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-03  5:39       ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-03  5:40         ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-09 12:25       ` David Miller
2008-09-03  5:39     ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-03  5:45       ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-03  5:50         ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-03  6:14           ` David Miller
2008-09-03  6:27             ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-03  6:35               ` David Miller
2008-09-03  6:45                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-03  6:47                   ` David Miller
2008-09-03  7:14                     ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-05 11:55                     ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-09  0:09                       ` David Miller
2008-09-09  0:18                         ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-09  0:20                           ` David Miller
2008-09-09  0:25                       ` David Miller
2008-09-09 14:33                         ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-09 20:20                           ` David Miller
2008-09-10  3:01                           ` David Miller
2008-09-11 21:24                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-11 22:00                             ` David Miller
2008-09-11 23:22                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-12 16:08                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-12 17:37                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-21 12:29                           ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-21 15:21                             ` Timo Teräs [this message]
2008-09-22 11:42                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-22 13:01                                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-22 23:50                                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23  4:53                                     ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23  4:59                                       ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23  5:17                                         ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23  5:22                                           ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23  6:25                                             ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23  6:47                                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23  6:56                                                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23  9:39                                                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23 11:24                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23 12:08                                                     ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23 12:14                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23 12:25                                                         ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23 12:56                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23 13:01                                                             ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23 13:07                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23 13:30                                                                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-23 13:32                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23 13:46                                                                     ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24  4:23                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24  5:14                                                                         ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24  5:15                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24  5:46                                                                             ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24  5:55                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24  6:04                                                                                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24  6:13                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24  6:20                                                                                     ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24  6:21                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24  7:29                                                                                         ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24  7:54                                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24 13:18                                                                                             ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-24 14:08                                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-25  6:03                                                                                                 ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-25  7:57                                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-25  8:42                                                                                                     ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-25  8:56                                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-25  9:01                                                                                                         ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-25  9:49                                                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-25 12:12                                                                                                             ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-25 12:36                                                                                                               ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-26  2:08                                                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2008-10-01 10:07                                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2008-10-01 14:05                                                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-23  2:48                                 ` David Miller
2008-09-10  3:04           ` David Miller
2008-09-10  3:15             ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-10  3:22               ` David Miller
2008-09-10  3:23                 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-10  3:38                   ` David Miller
2008-09-10  4:01                     ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-10  4:06                       ` David Miller
2008-09-10  4:22                         ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-10  4:24                           ` David Miller
2008-09-10  4:48                             ` David Miller
2008-09-10  4:52                               ` David Miller
2008-09-10  4:53                               ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-10  5:21                                 ` David Miller
2008-09-10  5:16                         ` Timo Teräs
2008-09-10  5:23                           ` David Miller
2008-09-10  5:46                             ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-03  6:10     ` David Miller

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