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From: Wei Weng <wweng@acedsl.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ipw2100-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhu@intel.com,
	reinette.chatre@intel.com, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	linville@tuxdriver.com, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: Mark IPW2100 as BROKEN: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:52:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D697F5.9050802@acedsl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080921113513.16677c4e@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:28:38 +0400
> Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:04:22AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven
>> (arjan@infradead.org) wrote:
>>> so now you go from an occasional burp to having nothing at all.
>>> How about you run with this patch on your own machine only?
>> And how else user can get attention to the problem which is not fixed
>> by the vendor? 
> 
> ... or the community
> 
>> We close our eyes and there is no problem, since we do
>> not see it. I just brought a lamp: no user can see that essentially
>> driver is broken so he can run it on his own risk.
>>
>>> or.. since you say a reload of the driver fixes it.. why don't you
>>> make a patch for the driver that does basically the actions of a
>>> reload automatically when the driver detects the issue?
>>> (and stick a WARN_ON in for good measure so that kerneloops.org can
>>> start tracking these burps)
>> It stops after several seconds (or packets?). Sometimes (but rarely)
>> it works several minutes, sometimes it fires above dmesg line and
>> continues to work, sometimes it fires it for a while and then stops
>> writing it, although driver does not send or receive anything (at
>> least ifconfig counters do not change).
> 
> again.. so how about you detect this condition and do, in the driver
> code, the equivalent of rmmod/insmod to the hardware. I'm sure people
> who have the hardware would appreciate that type of patch a lot more
> than the one you sent out.
> 

I guess it is your way of "middle finger" to all the IPW2100 customers who try
to use it on a Linux machine.


Thanks
Wei



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From: Wei Weng <wweng-cRpQ+ttULALQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov
	<johnpol-9fLWQ3dKdXwox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	ipw2100-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	yi.zhu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	reinette.chatre-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	jgarzik-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org,
	davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Mark IPW2100 as BROKEN: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:52:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D697F5.9050802@acedsl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080921113513.16677c4e-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:28:38 +0400
> Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol-9fLWQ3dKdXwox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:04:22AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven
>> (arjan-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org) wrote:
>>> so now you go from an occasional burp to having nothing at all.
>>> How about you run with this patch on your own machine only?
>> And how else user can get attention to the problem which is not fixed
>> by the vendor? 
> 
> ... or the community
> 
>> We close our eyes and there is no problem, since we do
>> not see it. I just brought a lamp: no user can see that essentially
>> driver is broken so he can run it on his own risk.
>>
>>> or.. since you say a reload of the driver fixes it.. why don't you
>>> make a patch for the driver that does basically the actions of a
>>> reload automatically when the driver detects the issue?
>>> (and stick a WARN_ON in for good measure so that kerneloops.org can
>>> start tracking these burps)
>> It stops after several seconds (or packets?). Sometimes (but rarely)
>> it works several minutes, sometimes it fires above dmesg line and
>> continues to work, sometimes it fires it for a while and then stops
>> writing it, although driver does not send or receive anything (at
>> least ifconfig counters do not change).
> 
> again.. so how about you detect this condition and do, in the driver
> code, the equivalent of rmmod/insmod to the hardware. I'm sure people
> who have the hardware would appreciate that type of patch a lot more
> than the one you sent out.
> 

I guess it is your way of "middle finger" to all the IPW2100 customers who try
to use it on a Linux machine.


Thanks
Wei


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-21 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-21 17:23 Mark IPW2100 as BROKEN: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 17:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 17:36 ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-21 17:36   ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-21 17:38   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 17:38     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 18:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 18:28   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 18:35     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 18:52       ` Wei Weng [this message]
2008-09-21 18:52         ` Wei Weng
2008-09-21 19:20         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 19:00       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 19:00         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 19:14         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-21 19:14           ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-21 19:38           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 19:43             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 19:43               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 20:20               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 20:27                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 20:27                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 20:57                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 20:57                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 21:02                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 21:02                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 21:05                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 21:05                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 21:14                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 21:14                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-21 21:43                         ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-09-21 22:07                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 22:07                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 22:15                             ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-09-21 22:15                               ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-09-21 23:46                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 23:46                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 23:27                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-21 23:27                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-22  0:00                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-22  0:00                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 22:38                     ` Alan Cox
2008-09-21 22:38                       ` Alan Cox
2008-09-21 23:44                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 23:44                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 23:48                         ` David Miller
2008-09-21 23:48                           ` David Miller
2008-09-22  0:18                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-22 14:22                         ` Bill Davidsen
2008-09-21 20:05             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-09-21 20:05               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-09-21 20:26               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 20:26                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 20:35                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-09-21 20:35                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-09-21 21:06                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 21:06                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 19:57         ` Alan Cox
2008-09-21 19:57           ` Alan Cox
2008-09-21 21:10           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 21:10             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-26  5:56           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-26  5:56             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 19:35 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-21 21:12   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 21:12     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-21 22:45   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-09-21 22:45     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-09-21 22:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-09-21 22:42   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-09-21 23:45   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-09-22 16:21 ` [Ipw2100-devel] " Kenneth Crudup

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