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* git master not updating
@ 2008-10-01 12:24 Kalev Lember
  2008-10-01 12:45 ` Otavio Salvador
  2008-10-02  0:36 ` Holger Freyther
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Kalev Lember @ 2008-10-01 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Hello,

http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.

-- 
Kalev



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 12:24 git master not updating Kalev Lember
@ 2008-10-01 12:45 ` Otavio Salvador
  2008-10-01 13:07   ` Kalev Lember
  2008-10-02  0:36 ` Holger Freyther
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Otavio Salvador @ 2008-10-01 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Kalev Lember <kalev@smartlink.ee> writes:

> Hello,
>
> http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
> The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
> spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
> fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.

org.openembedded.dev branch is up to date. I'm using it.

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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 12:45 ` Otavio Salvador
@ 2008-10-01 13:07   ` Kalev Lember
  2008-10-01 13:18     ` Otavio Salvador
  2008-10-01 13:34     ` Nicola Mfb
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Kalev Lember @ 2008-10-01 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Kalev Lember <kalev@smartlink.ee> writes:
>
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
>> The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
>> spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
>> fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.
>>     
>
> org.openembedded.dev branch is up to date. I'm using it.
>
>   
Well yes, but if you just do:
git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev

you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.

$ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
Initialized empty Git repository in
/home/kalev/tmp/org.openembedded.dev/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 172765, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (66031/66031), done.
remote: Total 172765 (delta 117875), reused 155868 (delta 106016)
Receiving objects: 100% (172765/172765), 81.65 MiB | 1116 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (117875/117875), done.
Checking out files: 100% (20330/20330), done.
$ cd org.openembedded.dev/
$ git status
# On branch master
nothing to commit (working directory clean)
$ git log | head
commit af6706689123f82a525f2f716cbc54b3e9154814
Author:  <koen@openembedded.org>
Date:   Fri Sep 26 16:03:59 2008 +0000

    feed browser: add screenshot support, update angstrom sample config

commit 44b0c01116c767d57a648981f8d57133fefc7954
Author:  <koen@openembedded.org>
Date:   Fri Sep 26 15:04:45 2008 +0000


-- 
Kalev



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 13:07   ` Kalev Lember
@ 2008-10-01 13:18     ` Otavio Salvador
  2008-10-01 13:34     ` Nicola Mfb
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Otavio Salvador @ 2008-10-01 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Kalev Lember <kalev@smartlink.ee> writes:

> Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> Kalev Lember <kalev@smartlink.ee> writes:
>>
>>   
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
>>> The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
>>> spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
>>> fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.
>>>     
>>
>> org.openembedded.dev branch is up to date. I'm using it.
>>
>>   
> Well yes, but if you just do:
> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>
> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.

Yes it is indeed a problem however I'd like to let you know that one
branch was being update ... :-)


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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 13:07   ` Kalev Lember
  2008-10-01 13:18     ` Otavio Salvador
@ 2008-10-01 13:34     ` Nicola Mfb
  2008-10-01 14:24       ` Koen Kooi
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Nicola Mfb @ 2008-10-01 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

2008/10/1 Kalev Lember <kalev@smartlink.ee>
[...]

> Well yes, but if you just do:
> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>
> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.


Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please fix!

Regards

    Nicola


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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 13:34     ` Nicola Mfb
@ 2008-10-01 14:24       ` Koen Kooi
  2008-10-01 15:48         ` Mike (mwester)
  2008-10-01 23:30         ` Rod Whitby
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2008-10-01 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
> [...]
>
>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>
>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>
>
> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please fix!

That's what you get for using makefiles....


>
> Regards
>
>      Nicola





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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 14:24       ` Koen Kooi
@ 2008-10-01 15:48         ` Mike (mwester)
  2008-10-01 16:39           ` Andrea Adami
                             ` (2 more replies)
  2008-10-01 23:30         ` Rod Whitby
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Mike (mwester) @ 2008-10-01 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Koen Kooi wrote:
> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>
>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>
>>
>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please
>> fix!
> 
> That's what you get for using makefiles....

How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?

Mike (mwester)



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 15:48         ` Mike (mwester)
@ 2008-10-01 16:39           ` Andrea Adami
  2008-10-01 17:13           ` Philip Balister
  2008-10-01 17:17           ` Koen Kooi
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Adami @ 2008-10-01 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

FYI this was briefly discussed on irc:

http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe/2008/September/20080926_oe.log
...
[20080926 18:00:51] <mickey|tw>   zecke: did you see my request
regarding combining CIAbot notifications for multiple branches? Would
be a nice thing and reduce clutter
[20080926 18:02:10] <zecke>   mickey|tw: yes, the ciabot runs on
gitweb where I have no access to :)
[20080926 18:02:29] <mickey|tw>   gitweb?
[20080926 18:02:40] <zecke>   mickey|tw: git.openembedded.org
[20080926 18:02:48] <mickey|tw>   oh, there it runs
[20080926 18:02:49] <mickey|tw>   interesting
[20080926 18:03:05] <zecke>   mickey|tw: a) I can stop pushing master.
I did it because it was needed on repo.or.cz
[20080926 18:03:39] <zecke>   mickey|tw: b) someone with access
changes the post commit script to have if [ $branch != "master" ];
then run_cia_script; fi
[20080926 18:04:47] <mickey|tw>   hmm
[20080926 18:04:51] <mickey|tw>   which option do you recommend?
...
20080926 18:15:21] <zecke>   mickey|tw: I will not push master anymore
[20080926 18:16:30] <mickey|tw>   oki, cool
...



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 15:48         ` Mike (mwester)
  2008-10-01 16:39           ` Andrea Adami
@ 2008-10-01 17:13           ` Philip Balister
  2008-10-01 18:32             ` Nicola Mfb
  2008-10-01 23:33             ` Rod Whitby
  2008-10-01 17:17           ` Koen Kooi
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Philip Balister @ 2008-10-01 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

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Mike (mwester) wrote:
> Koen Kooi wrote:
>> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>>
>>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>>
>>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
>>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please
>>> fix!
>> That's what you get for using makefiles....
> 
> How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?

The problem is that if someone has a problem and shows up in #oe asking 
why there are not any updates. If they can't explain the actual command 
to do the updates, most of the people in #oe cannot help.

Please have people using makefiles ask for help in the project specific 
channels first.

Philip

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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 15:48         ` Mike (mwester)
  2008-10-01 16:39           ` Andrea Adami
  2008-10-01 17:13           ` Philip Balister
@ 2008-10-01 17:17           ` Koen Kooi
  2008-10-01 18:11             ` Mike (mwester)
  2008-10-01 18:43             ` Tom Rini
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2008-10-01 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On 01-10-2008 17:48, Mike (mwester) wrote:
> Koen Kooi wrote:
>> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>>
>>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>>
>>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
>>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please
>>> fix!
>> That's what you get for using makefiles....
>
> How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?

All org.openembedded.* branches are still being updated.


>
> Mike (mwester)





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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 17:17           ` Koen Kooi
@ 2008-10-01 18:11             ` Mike (mwester)
  2008-10-01 18:43             ` Tom Rini
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Mike (mwester) @ 2008-10-01 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Koen Kooi wrote:
> On 01-10-2008 17:48, Mike (mwester) wrote:
>> Koen Kooi wrote:
>>> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>>>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>>>
>>>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>>>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko,
>>>> this use
>>>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please
>>>> fix!
>>> That's what you get for using makefiles....
>>
>> How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?
> 
> All org.openembedded.* branches are still being updated.
>

Yes?  And how does a wrapper of any sort, makefile or shell script,
affect that?  Are you saying the bitbake and OE have code to detect if
"make" is a parent process, and it behaves differently?  Or are you
saying that "make" is broken?  Or are their unknown bugs in bitbake or
OE recipes that seem to behave badly when bitbake is invoked by "make"?

Of course it's none of the above  -- it's that you despise the makefile
--  but a lot of other people might actually think you are making some
technically-sound point, and wrongly determine that OE and make are
incompatible in some way.

So why not just say that the wrong branch is being pulled instead of
making snide comments about the tools others use?

Mike (mwester)



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 17:13           ` Philip Balister
@ 2008-10-01 18:32             ` Nicola Mfb
  2008-10-01 23:33             ` Rod Whitby
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Nicola Mfb @ 2008-10-01 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

2008/10/1 Philip Balister <philip@balister.org>

> [...]
>>
>>
>> How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?
>>
>
> The problem is that if someone has a problem and shows up in #oe asking why
> there are not any updates. If they can't explain the actual command to do
> the updates, most of the people in #oe cannot help.
>
> Please have people using makefiles ask for help in the project specific
> channels first.
>

If an user does not understand that git pull does not updates, and that git
log does report 26 september, how may he know that the git server is at
openenembedded? it would report problems to openmoko, or fso!
Peoples are asking here because they read git.openembedded.net in the
Makefile, someone know that you are migrating to git, so it's normal to
think that the git server at openembedded should work!
The *only* problem is that the git server is a test installation as you may
only derive from the wiki!
So you may be gentle with peoples and update the oe wiki saying that using
git is unsupported, so makefile authors may decide to not use it just now,
and use it later!

     Nicola


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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 17:17           ` Koen Kooi
  2008-10-01 18:11             ` Mike (mwester)
@ 2008-10-01 18:43             ` Tom Rini
  2008-10-01 20:18               ` Koen Kooi
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Tom Rini @ 2008-10-01 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 07:17:57PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> On 01-10-2008 17:48, Mike (mwester) wrote:
>> Koen Kooi wrote:
>>> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>>>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>>>
>>>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>>>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
>>>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please
>>>> fix!
>>> That's what you get for using makefiles....
>>
>> How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?
>
> All org.openembedded.* branches are still being updated.

So is the answer that the "master" branch in git it not planned on being
used?  Or it will have some other use, documented over in ... ?  It
sounds like the problem is that the policy on what to use in the git
tree isn't published yet.  Or it is, and someone didn't read it.

-- 
Tom Rini



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 18:43             ` Tom Rini
@ 2008-10-01 20:18               ` Koen Kooi
  2008-10-01 21:36                 ` Tom Rini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2008-10-01 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On 01-10-2008 20:43, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 07:17:57PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
>> On 01-10-2008 17:48, Mike (mwester) wrote:
>>> Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>>>>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>>>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>>>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>>>>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
>>>>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please
>>>>> fix!
>>>> That's what you get for using makefiles....
>>> How does a makefile affect the branches not being updated?
>> All org.openembedded.* branches are still being updated.
>
> So is the answer that the "master" branch in git it not planned on being
> used?  Or it will have some other use, documented over in ... ?  It
> sounds like the problem is that the policy on what to use in the git
> tree isn't published yet.  Or it is, and someone didn't read it.

The only supported way to use OE is via monotone, if you are using a 
makefile that's using something else you are SOL

>





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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 20:18               ` Koen Kooi
@ 2008-10-01 21:36                 ` Tom Rini
  2008-10-01 23:57                   ` Rod Whitby
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Tom Rini @ 2008-10-01 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:18:49PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> On 01-10-2008 20:43, Tom Rini wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 07:17:57PM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
[snip]
>>> All org.openembedded.* branches are still being updated.
>>
>> So is the answer that the "master" branch in git it not planned on being
>> used?  Or it will have some other use, documented over in ... ?  It
>> sounds like the problem is that the policy on what to use in the git
>> tree isn't published yet.  Or it is, and someone didn't read it.
>
> The only supported way to use OE is via monotone, if you are using a  
> makefile that's using something else you are SOL

I'm not using a Makefile.  I'd just like to know what part of git I
should be look at checking out and attempting to work in, as the
transition is apparently imminent.  I'm assuming that once the
transition is complete, there'll be documentation saying "If you want
the dev branch, do ...", "If you want the stable branch, do ...".  Does
this type of documentation not yet exist?  Is there still some debate as
to if the git master branch will be the dev branch, or if the naming
scheme of org.openembedded.{dev,stable}, etc will continue?  Thanks.

-- 
Tom Rini



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 14:24       ` Koen Kooi
  2008-10-01 15:48         ` Mike (mwester)
@ 2008-10-01 23:30         ` Rod Whitby
  2008-10-02  0:43           ` I'm sick of that Was " Holger Freyther
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Rod Whitby @ 2008-10-01 23:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Koen Kooi wrote:
> On 01-10-2008 15:34, Nicola Mfb wrote:
>> 2008/10/1 Kalev Lember<kalev@smartlink.ee>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Well yes, but if you just do:
>>> git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev
>>>
>>> you'll end up on master branch, which is not updating.
>>
>> Yes, the same here, i opened one of those bugs.
>> I'm using a semiautomated makefile environment for fso/openmoko, this use
>> git and not monotone, so this problem affects a lot of peoples, please fix!
> 
> That's what you get for using makefiles....

A typical response from Koen.  Sigh.  For once it would be good for him
to focus on the problem at hand (which was reported correctly with no
mention of makefiles) instead of trying to take childish potshots at
things he has a personal vendetta against.

A number of places on the internet (including
http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit,
http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Git,
http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/OpenEmbedded_OSD2,
http://linux.paduli.org/index.php?title=OpenEmbedded%2C_linux%2C_software_e_sviluppo_per_dispositivi_embedded!,
 just for some examples) advise users to type the following command to
clone the trial OE git repo, with no mention of needing a specific branch:

   git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev/

In fact, Koen himself advised users to use exactly that command (and no
mention of needing to check out a specific branch) in the #beagle IRC
channel on 14th June 2008 (see
http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2008-06-14 at [12:43:48]).

That used to work, and now it doesn't, due to an unannounced change to
the operation of the trial OE git repo.

Note that I've been careful to say "trial OE git repo" everywhere, since
it's still a trial and there is no official OE documentation on whether
you should be pulling from the master branch or the org.openembedded.dev
branch (and as can be seen from the BeagleBoard page above, and Koen's
instructions to people on the #beagle IRC channel, the confusion exists
independently of whether a makefile is used or not).  So anyone using
the trial OE git repo does so at their own risk.

The beauty of a makefile is that *everyone* using it can be migrated to
the latest correct instructions for using the trial OE git repo
automatically.

Koen, are you going to go around and fix all the places on the internet
that have propagated the obsolete instructions on how to use the trial
OE git repo (including the IRC log where you yourself gave those
obsolete instructions)?

I'll be doing so today for all users of the Makefiles who are affected
by this change in how the trial OE git repo should be accessed.

-- Rod



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 17:13           ` Philip Balister
  2008-10-01 18:32             ` Nicola Mfb
@ 2008-10-01 23:33             ` Rod Whitby
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Rod Whitby @ 2008-10-01 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Philip Balister wrote:
> The problem is that if someone has a problem and shows up in #oe asking 
> why there are not any updates. If they can't explain the actual command 
> to do the updates, most of the people in #oe cannot help.

The actual git commands executed are printed in the shell where the
makefile is run.  And you can be sure that they haven't just made a typo
 in the git commands, cause it's part of a makefile.

As always, the first thing a user should include in a bug report is a
trace of the execution of the command that is failing.  That will
clearly show the git commands executed.

-- Rod



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 21:36                 ` Tom Rini
@ 2008-10-01 23:57                   ` Rod Whitby
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Rod Whitby @ 2008-10-01 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

For those people who are using the FSO Makefile, it has now been updated
 to match the new unofficial undocumented instructions on how to use the
trial OE git repo.

"make update-makefile" followed by "make setup-openembedded" will
automatically migrate your build environment to use the
org.openembedded.dev branch.

[Now let's see how quickly all the other places on the internet where
the old instructions live are updated, and how many more bug reports and
questions we get from people following them and not having a means to
automatically migrate to the new way of doing things.]

-- Rod



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 12:24 git master not updating Kalev Lember
  2008-10-01 12:45 ` Otavio Salvador
@ 2008-10-02  0:36 ` Holger Freyther
  2008-10-02 11:28   ` Cliff Brake
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Holger Freyther @ 2008-10-02  0:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On Wednesday 01 October 2008 14:24:56 Kalev Lember wrote:
> Hello,
>
> http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
> The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
> spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
> fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.

That is on purpose. People complained on irc that CIAbot reports everything 
twice (master, org.openembedded.dev)... and there is no real reason to have a 
branch called master.

z.



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* I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-01 23:30         ` Rod Whitby
@ 2008-10-02  0:43           ` Holger Freyther
  2008-10-02  1:50             ` Otavio Salvador
                               ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Holger Freyther @ 2008-10-02  0:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

- I wrote mtn2git because I felt like, no one ever said thank you
- I run mtn2git on the OE metadata on a server provided by a company that has 
nothing todo with OpenEmbedded
- I maintain the running of the script over a GPRS line with a couple of 
seconds delay, no one ever said thank you.

Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community that was 
announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this 
attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.

z.




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* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02  0:43           ` I'm sick of that Was " Holger Freyther
@ 2008-10-02  1:50             ` Otavio Salvador
  2008-10-02  1:51             ` Rod Whitby
                               ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Otavio Salvador @ 2008-10-02  1:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Holger Freyther <zecke@selfish.org> writes:

> Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community that was 
> announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this 
> attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.

I do believe that so many people relying in your service proves it is
very useful. I do hope you continue the service since many people
relies on it.

-- 
        O T A V I O    S A L V A D O R
---------------------------------------------
 E-mail: otavio@debian.org      UIN: 5906116
 GNU/Linux User: 239058     GPG ID: 49A5F855
 Home Page: http://otavio.ossystems.com.br
---------------------------------------------
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 you the whole house."



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* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02  0:43           ` I'm sick of that Was " Holger Freyther
  2008-10-02  1:50             ` Otavio Salvador
@ 2008-10-02  1:51             ` Rod Whitby
  2008-10-02 11:49             ` Cliff Brake
                               ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Rod Whitby @ 2008-10-02  1:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zecke; +Cc: openembedded-devel

Holger Freyther wrote:
> - I wrote mtn2git because I felt like, no one ever said thank you
> - I run mtn2git on the OE metadata on a server provided by a company that has 
> nothing todo with OpenEmbedded
> - I maintain the running of the script over a GPRS line with a couple of 
> seconds delay, no one ever said thank you.
> 
> Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community that was 
> announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this 
> attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.

Holger,

I hope you didn't take any of my comments as complaints.  I was careful
to note that this is an unofficial service that no-one should be relying
upon, and that many people very much appreciate.

It is because of your service that people building
www.freesmartphone.org distro have never needed to worry about monotone.
 That in itself demands a huge gratitude.

Please don't discontinue it.   If you would prefer to hand over the
hosting or maintenance of the OE git server to someone else, I'm sure we
could find a group of people (myself included) who would be happy to help.

-- Rod



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02  0:36 ` Holger Freyther
@ 2008-10-02 11:28   ` Cliff Brake
  2008-10-03  2:55     ` Holger Freyther
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Cliff Brake @ 2008-10-02 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Holger Freyther <zecke@selfish.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 October 2008 14:24:56 Kalev Lember wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
>> The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
>> spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
>> fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.
>
> That is on purpose. People complained on irc that CIAbot reports everything
> twice (master, org.openembedded.dev)... and there is no real reason to have a
> branch called master.

Hmm, and someone must have just fixed the repo so that a clone
automatically checks out the org.openembedded.dev branch, and there is
no master branch :-)

cbrake@happy:/build/tmp/org.openembedded.dev$ git branch
* org.openembedded.dev
cbrake@happy:/build/tmp/org.openembedded.dev$ git branch -r
  origin/HEAD
  origin/org.openembedded.dev
  origin/org.openembedded.documentation
  origin/org.openembedded.dreambox
  origin/org.openembedded.entity
  origin/org.openembedded.stable
  origin/org.openmoko.april-update
  origin/org.openmoko.dev
  origin/org.openmoko.xora.qtopia
  origin/org.openmoko.zecke.april-update
  origin/org.openmoko.zecke.autotools-bustage
  origin/org.openmoko.zecke.random-breakage

http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Git updated

Cliff

-- 
=======================
Cliff Brake
http://bec-systems.com



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* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02  0:43           ` I'm sick of that Was " Holger Freyther
  2008-10-02  1:50             ` Otavio Salvador
  2008-10-02  1:51             ` Rod Whitby
@ 2008-10-02 11:49             ` Cliff Brake
  2008-10-02 12:51               ` Kalev Lember
  2008-10-02 18:06             ` Mark Vels
  2008-10-02 22:15             ` Michael Krelin
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Cliff Brake @ 2008-10-02 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Holger Freyther <zecke@selfish.org> wrote:
> - I wrote mtn2git because I felt like, no one ever said thank you
> - I run mtn2git on the OE metadata on a server provided by a company that has
> nothing todo with OpenEmbedded
> - I maintain the running of the script over a GPRS line with a couple of
> seconds delay, no one ever said thank you.
>
> Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community that was
> announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this
> attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.

I would like to extend a big thank you, RP, and others for setting
this up and keeping this going.  Having the git mirror has made
supporting new OE users a _lot_ easier, and I am very dependent on it.
 It is my opinion that keeping this migration moving is fairly
important.  While monotone has served the active OE developers well,
it is fairly tedious explaining how it works to new users, and is
somewhat of a barrier to confidence in the project.

Cliff

-- 
=======================
Cliff Brake
http://bec-systems.com



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* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02 11:49             ` Cliff Brake
@ 2008-10-02 12:51               ` Kalev Lember
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Kalev Lember @ 2008-10-02 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Cliff Brake wrote:
> I would like to extend a big thank you, RP, and others for setting
> this up and keeping this going.  Having the git mirror has made
> supporting new OE users a _lot_ easier, and I am very dependent on it.
>  It is my opinion that keeping this migration moving is fairly
> important.  While monotone has served the active OE developers well,
> it is fairly tedious explaining how it works to new users, and is
> somewhat of a barrier to confidence in the project.
>   

I'd like to thank everyone who has kept git conversion going too.

I've personally been using monotone, mostly because it was the only way
to access OE repository a few years ago and it's still needed to get my
patches into OE tree. However, I also think that git might make it
easier to get new people to the project.

And thanks for getting rid of the master branch, the git tree layout is
now much easier to understand.

Thanks,
Kalev



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* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02  0:43           ` I'm sick of that Was " Holger Freyther
                               ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2008-10-02 11:49             ` Cliff Brake
@ 2008-10-02 18:06             ` Mark Vels
  2008-10-02 20:29               ` Rodrigo Vivi
  2008-10-02 22:15             ` Michael Krelin
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Mark Vels @ 2008-10-02 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Holger Freyther wrote:
> - I wrote mtn2git because I felt like, no one ever said thank you
> - I run mtn2git on the OE metadata on a server provided by a company
that has
> nothing todo with OpenEmbedded
> - I maintain the running of the script over a GPRS line with a couple of
> seconds delay, no one ever said thank you.
>
> Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community
that was
> announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this
> attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.
>
> z.
>
Thank you!




^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread

* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02 18:06             ` Mark Vels
@ 2008-10-02 20:29               ` Rodrigo Vivi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Rodrigo Vivi @ 2008-10-02 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

Hi Holger,

I know that your intention with this email wasn't receive an avalanche
of "Thank you".
However I must say Thank you!

The work that you've spent on that has made our lives easier. It was
so pain work with monotone.

I know that we from Mamona are not working properly with OE, but we
are waiting the complete git migration to work closer to OE and send
our fixes and improvements back upstream.

So I'd like to ask you: Please don't give up!

Is there any thing that I can do to help you?

Best Regards,
vivijim

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Mark Vels <Mark.Vels@fundem.net> wrote:
> Holger Freyther wrote:
>> - I wrote mtn2git because I felt like, no one ever said thank you
>> - I run mtn2git on the OE metadata on a server provided by a company
> that has
>> nothing todo with OpenEmbedded
>> - I maintain the running of the script over a GPRS line with a couple of
>> seconds delay, no one ever said thank you.
>>
>> Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community
> that was
>> announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this
>> attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.
>>
>> z.
>>
> Thank you!
>
>
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>



-- 
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INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia
Blog: http://blog.vivi.eng.br
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* Re: I'm sick of that Was Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02  0:43           ` I'm sick of that Was " Holger Freyther
                               ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2008-10-02 18:06             ` Mark Vels
@ 2008-10-02 22:15             ` Michael Krelin
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Michael Krelin @ 2008-10-02 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

If you don't want to get complaints, don't do anything. If you don't 
want to hear complaints about service you do for the community, don't do 
anything for community. There's no other way to avoid complaints.

Do what you find meaningful. And I have a feeling you do think this 
migration, including transition is the case.

I hope the transition period is getting to its end, though.

And yes, obligatory yet sincere: thank you! ;-)

Love,
H

Holger Freyther wrote:
> - I wrote mtn2git because I felt like, no one ever said thank you
> - I run mtn2git on the OE metadata on a server provided by a company that has 
> nothing todo with OpenEmbedded
> - I maintain the running of the script over a GPRS line with a couple of 
> seconds delay, no one ever said thank you.
> 
> Instead I _always_ get complains for a service I do for the community that was 
> announced as "experimental and might vanish every day". I'm sick of this 
> attitude. I will discontinue this service as of now.
> 
> z.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-devel mailing list
> Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel



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* Re: git master not updating
  2008-10-02 11:28   ` Cliff Brake
@ 2008-10-03  2:55     ` Holger Freyther
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Holger Freyther @ 2008-10-03  2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-devel

On Thursday 02 October 2008 13:28:47 Cliff Brake wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Holger Freyther <zecke@selfish.org> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 14:24:56 Kalev Lember wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=summary
> >> The master head of org.openembedded.dev is not updating. I already
> >> spotted two bug reports (4584 and 4590) which reported issues that were
> >> fixed in monotone 4 days ago, but never got into git master.
> >
> > That is on purpose. People complained on irc that CIAbot reports
> > everything twice (master, org.openembedded.dev)... and there is no real
> > reason to have a branch called master.
>
> Hmm, and someone must have just fixed the repo so that a clone
> automatically checks out the org.openembedded.dev branch, and there is
> no master branch :-)

magic? ;)

master was just there for repo.or.cz... I removed it from the repo and made 
the default branch org.openembedded.dev, people in the wild should know what 
to do or execute git-checkout -b org.openembedded.dev 
origin/org.openembedded.dev

z.



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