From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: chrisw@redhat.com, markmc@redhat.com,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Laurent.Vivier@bull.net,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ryanh@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Disk integrity in QEMU
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:31:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48FB8B2C.6010908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081019.131707.1678758304.imp@bsdimp.com>
M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <48FB7B26.2090903@redhat.com>
> Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:
> : >> Sounds like a bug. Shouldn't Linux disable the write cache unless the
> : >> user explicitly enables it, if NCQ is available? NCQ should provide
> : >> acceptable throughput even without the write cache.
> : >>
> : >
> : > How can it be a bug?
> :
> : If it puts my data at risk, it's a bug. I can understand it for IDE,
> : but not for SATA with NCQ.
>
> So wouldn't async mounts by default be a bug too?
>
No. Applications which are worried about data integrity use fsync() or
backups to protect the user.
I'm not worried about losing a few minutes of openoffice.org work. I'm
worried about mail systems, filesystem metadata, etc. which can easily
lose a large amount of data which is hard to recover.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-19 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-09 17:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Disk integrity in QEMU Anthony Liguori
2008-10-10 7:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-10-10 8:12 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-10-12 23:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-14 17:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-10 9:32 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-12 23:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-10 8:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-10-10 12:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-10 12:53 ` Paul Brook
2008-10-10 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-10 14:05 ` Paul Brook
2008-10-10 14:19 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-17 13:14 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-19 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-10 15:48 ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-10-10 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-10 9:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-10-10 10:26 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-10 12:59 ` Paul Brook
2008-10-10 13:20 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-10 12:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-10 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-11 9:07 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-10-11 17:54 ` Mark Wagner
2008-10-11 20:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-12 0:43 ` Mark Wagner
2008-10-12 1:50 ` Chris Wright
2008-10-12 1:50 ` Chris Wright
2008-10-12 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-12 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-12 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-12 18:14 ` nuitari-qemu
2008-10-13 0:27 ` Mark Wagner
2008-10-13 1:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-13 2:09 ` Mark Wagner
2008-10-13 3:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-13 6:42 ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-10-13 14:38 ` Steve Ofsthun
2008-10-12 0:44 ` Chris Wright
2008-10-12 10:21 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-12 14:37 ` Dor Laor
2008-10-12 14:37 ` Dor Laor
2008-10-12 15:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-12 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-12 18:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-12 18:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-15 10:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-10-15 10:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-10-12 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-12 18:34 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-12 19:33 ` Izik Eidus
2008-10-12 19:33 ` Izik Eidus
2008-10-14 17:08 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-14 17:08 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-12 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-12 20:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-12 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-14 15:21 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-14 15:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-14 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-14 19:25 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-16 9:47 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-12 10:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-17 13:20 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-19 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-19 18:10 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-19 18:23 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-19 19:17 ` M. Warner Losh
2008-10-19 19:31 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-19 18:24 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-19 18:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-19 19:11 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-19 19:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-19 20:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-20 14:14 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-10 10:03 ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-10-13 16:11 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-13 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-13 17:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-13 17:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ryan Harper
2008-10-13 18:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-14 16:42 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-13 18:51 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-13 19:43 ` Ryan Harper
2008-10-13 20:21 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-13 21:05 ` Ryan Harper
2008-10-15 13:10 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-16 10:24 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-16 13:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-16 16:08 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-17 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-17 13:17 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-10-14 10:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-10-14 14:32 ` Ryan Harper
2008-10-14 16:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-13 19:00 ` Mark Wagner
2008-10-13 19:15 ` Ryan Harper
2008-10-14 16:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-13 17:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2008-10-13 18:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-13 18:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-10-14 1:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-14 2:28 ` nuitari-qemu
2008-10-28 17:34 ` Ian Jackson
2008-10-28 17:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 17:50 ` Ian Jackson
2008-10-28 18:19 ` Jamie Lokier
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