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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, hugh@veritas.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: SLUB defrag pull request?
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:17:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49009575.60004@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810230721400.12497@quilx.com>

Christoph Lameter a écrit :
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> 
>>> The problem looks like its freeing objects on a different processor that
>>> where it was used last. With the pointer array it is only necessary 
>>> to touch
>>> the objects that contain the arrays.
>>
>> Interesting. SLAB gets away with this because of per-cpu caches or
>> because it uses the bufctls instead of a freelist?
> 
> Exactly. Slab adds a special management structure to each slab page that 
> contains the freelist and other stuff. Freeing first occurs to a per cpu 
> queue that contains an array of pointers. Then later the objects are 
> moved from the pointer array into the management structure for the slab.
> 
> What we could do for SLUB is to generate a linked list of pointer arrays 
> in the free objects of a slab page. If all objects are allocated then no 
> pointer array is needed. The first object freed would become the first 
> pointer array. If that is found to be exhausted then the object 
> currently being freed is becoming the next pointer array and we put a 
> link to the old one into the object as well.
> 

This idea is very nice, especially considering that many objects are freed
by RCU, and their rcu_head (which is hot at kfree() time), might be far
away the linked list anchor actually used in SLUB.

At alloc time, I remember I added a prefetchw() call in SLAB in __cache_alloc(),
this could explain some differences between SLUB and SLAB too, since SLAB
gives a hint to processor to warm its cache.





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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, hugh@veritas.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: SLUB defrag pull request?
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:17:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49009575.60004@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810230721400.12497@quilx.com>

Christoph Lameter a écrit :
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> 
>>> The problem looks like its freeing objects on a different processor that
>>> where it was used last. With the pointer array it is only necessary 
>>> to touch
>>> the objects that contain the arrays.
>>
>> Interesting. SLAB gets away with this because of per-cpu caches or
>> because it uses the bufctls instead of a freelist?
> 
> Exactly. Slab adds a special management structure to each slab page that 
> contains the freelist and other stuff. Freeing first occurs to a per cpu 
> queue that contains an array of pointers. Then later the objects are 
> moved from the pointer array into the management structure for the slab.
> 
> What we could do for SLUB is to generate a linked list of pointer arrays 
> in the free objects of a slab page. If all objects are allocated then no 
> pointer array is needed. The first object freed would become the first 
> pointer array. If that is found to be exhausted then the object 
> currently being freed is becoming the next pointer array and we put a 
> link to the old one into the object as well.
> 

This idea is very nice, especially considering that many objects are freed
by RCU, and their rcu_head (which is hot at kfree() time), might be far
away the linked list anchor actually used in SLUB.

At alloc time, I remember I added a prefetchw() call in SLAB in __cache_alloc(),
this could explain some differences between SLUB and SLAB too, since SLAB
gives a hint to processor to warm its cache.




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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, hugh@veritas.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: SLUB defrag pull request?
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:17:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49009575.60004@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810230721400.12497@quilx.com>

Christoph Lameter a ecrit :
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> 
>>> The problem looks like its freeing objects on a different processor that
>>> where it was used last. With the pointer array it is only necessary 
>>> to touch
>>> the objects that contain the arrays.
>>
>> Interesting. SLAB gets away with this because of per-cpu caches or
>> because it uses the bufctls instead of a freelist?
> 
> Exactly. Slab adds a special management structure to each slab page that 
> contains the freelist and other stuff. Freeing first occurs to a per cpu 
> queue that contains an array of pointers. Then later the objects are 
> moved from the pointer array into the management structure for the slab.
> 
> What we could do for SLUB is to generate a linked list of pointer arrays 
> in the free objects of a slab page. If all objects are allocated then no 
> pointer array is needed. The first object freed would become the first 
> pointer array. If that is found to be exhausted then the object 
> currently being freed is becoming the next pointer array and we put a 
> link to the old one into the object as well.
> 

This idea is very nice, especially considering that many objects are freed
by RCU, and their rcu_head (which is hot at kfree() time), might be far
away the linked list anchor actually used in SLUB.

At alloc time, I remember I added a prefetchw() call in SLAB in __cache_alloc(),
this could explain some differences between SLUB and SLAB too, since SLAB
gives a hint to processor to warm its cache.




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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-23 15:17 UTC|newest]

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     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810131227120.20511@blonde.site>
2008-10-13 12:54     ` SLUB defrag pull request? Nick Piggin
2008-10-13 12:54       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-13 13:59       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 13:59         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 14:27         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 14:27           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 16:35           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-13 16:35             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-13 14:49             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 14:49               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 15:22               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 15:22                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 14:59               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 14:59                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 18:01                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 18:01                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 18:22                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 18:22                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 18:40                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 18:40                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 19:11                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 19:11                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 19:28                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 19:28                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 19:53                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 19:53                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 20:50                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-20 20:50                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 23:17                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-21 23:17                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22  7:10                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22  7:10                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 15:42                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 15:42                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 19:46                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 19:46                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 19:54                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 19:54                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 20:11                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 20:11                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 20:19                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 20:19                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 20:26                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 20:26                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 20:48                                               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-22 20:48                                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-22 21:01                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 21:01                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 21:04                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 21:04                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 21:12                                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-22 21:12                                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-22 21:28                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 21:28                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 22:10                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 22:10                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 23:20                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 23:20                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23  7:10                                                       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23  7:10                                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23  7:10                                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23  8:38                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23  8:38                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23  8:38                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:40                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 13:40                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 13:58                                                             ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23 13:58                                                               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23 14:09                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 14:09                                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 14:14                                                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23 14:14                                                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-23 14:25                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 14:25                                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 15:17                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-10-23 15:17                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-23 15:17                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-23 15:39                                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 15:39                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 16:35                                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-23 16:35                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-23 16:35                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-23 16:47                                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 16:47                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-23 17:14                                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-28 11:06                                                                               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-28 11:06                                                                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-10-28 11:19                                                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 11:19                                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-30 15:45                                                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-30 15:45                                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 20:59                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22 20:59                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-20 23:04                             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-20 23:04                               ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-13 16:24         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-13 16:24           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-13 14:28           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-13 14:28             ` Miklos Szeredi

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