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* [Printing-architecture] [Translation] [Printing-japan] 10/23 minutues
       [not found] <20081024.140846.71105530.sho@bbr.jp>
@ 2008-10-27  5:59 ` Osamu MIHARA
  2008-10-29  9:58   ` [Printing-architecture] [Printing-japan] [Translation] " Till Kamppeter
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From: Osamu MIHARA @ 2008-10-27  5:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: printing-architecture, printing-japan

Here is the minutes of OpenPrinting Japan Periodical Meeting.

# export LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1

=== OpenPrinting Japan October 2008 ===

o Date & Time:
23th Oct. (Thu) 14:30-17:00

o Place:
The Linux Foundation Kioicho Office

o Attendee:
Kunai (LF), Otani (BBR), Ofal (Avasys), Ogasawara (Ricoh), Yamagishi 
(Turbolinux), Toratani (Canon), Miyata (Canon), Higuchi (Open 
Technologies), Mihara (Fuji Xerox), Uoshima (Fuji Xerox), Saitou (NEC 
Soft), Henri Shutak (Lucid Systems)

o Agenda
- Action Items Review
- PWG Slide Review
- Free discussion of networkbase device managemnet system
- PDF printing discussion at Cairo summit
- Next years theme

o Action Items Review
- Confirm Till About Acrobat Issue (Kunai)
   Same issue happens with Apple Mac OS X.  Adobe is studying how to cope
   with it.

- Location of driver distribution server (Kunai)
   The issue is recognized now.  Kunai-san to ask to continue
   consideration.

- Rating information on the LF web (kunai)
   It is deleted.  Thank you!

- Confirm implementation of locale in CUPS (Mihara)
   Already reported to the ML (5th, Sep.).

   7. Localizations are specified using a locale prefix of the form "ll"
   or "ll_CC." where "ll" is the 2-letter ISO language code and "CC" is
   the 2-letter ISO country code.

   --> Main keyword and option keyword in PPD can be designated by
       Language, and Language+Country from CUPS 1.2.

- CPD follow-up (each)
   Source code is already in public.  Everyone should/may review it.

- Modify pdftoopvp (Otani)
   Modification is almost done.  Will upload the current one.

- Post translation of minutes. (Mihara)
   Done for September.  On going for October.

- Inform SC that no one can attend the PWG meeting. (Toratani)
   Done

o PWG slide
   Reviewed.

o Free discussion of networkbase device managemnet system
   Henri Shustak (lucid systems) explained the proposal of "Oepn Network 
Control."
   - we may need open interface for the purpose of management/accounting
     of printer/scanner/multi-function device.
  - It's not Linux specific topic.
   - We need current status and coverage of specifications discussed in
     PWG.

o PDF printing discussion at Cairo summit
   - They have discussed how to embed meta data, including job control,
     into PDF.  Direction: add new API to embed meta data, which should
     not be PDF specific.

o The theme next year
   -ideas:
     Device Management Control standard (Shustak's today proposal)
     Print Job Control for PDF workflow.
     Status API
     Capability API
     Driver automatic search and install
     Study Out of Box User Experience
     Investigate Requirement for next LSB
     Color Management

o Action Items
   - Driver server location (cont'd) - Kunai
   - CPD review - Each
   - pdftoopvp - upload modified result (Otani)

o Next Meeting
   14:30-17:00 27th, November 2008
   the Linux Foundation Kioicho Office
-- 
   Recorded by Koji OTANI (BBR)
   Translation by Osamu MIHARA (Fuji Xerox)


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* Re: [Printing-architecture] [Printing-japan] [Translation] 10/23 minutues
  2008-10-27  5:59 ` [Printing-architecture] [Translation] [Printing-japan] 10/23 minutues Osamu MIHARA
@ 2008-10-29  9:58   ` Till Kamppeter
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Till Kamppeter @ 2008-10-29  9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Osamu MIHARA; +Cc: printing-architecture, printing-japan

Osamu MIHARA wrote:
> o PDF printing discussion at Cairo summit
>    - They have discussed how to embed meta data, including job control,
>      into PDF.  Direction: add new API to embed meta data, which should
>      not be PDF specific.
>

The job control data set should be something like a JDF job ticket at 
best, or at least a string of key=value option settings. For the former 
we should implement the JTAPI ASAP.

On the Cairo Summit was only discussed about adding a function to insert 
arbitrary meta data into a PDF file generated by Cairo. How the job data 
looks like we have to determine.

The current PDF workflow requires the option settings to be submitted 
separately from the job data, for CUPS as IPP attributes. On some 
network printing protocols, like SMB or LPD this is not possible.

> o The theme next year
>    -ideas:
>      Print Job Control for PDF workflow.

See above, we should implement JTAPI for that.

>      Driver automatic search and install

This is mostly done. What is needed is;

  - A secure package signing concept, so that the distributions include
    the key for authenticating our binary packages. This we should do
    ASAP. We need to settle an agreement with at least SUSE, Red Hat, and
    Ubuntu.

>      Study Out of Box User Experience

Here we must see whether all our concepts really work as intended, but 
also see whether applications do printing the right way (using CUPS 
APIs, CPD, present PPD options, produce correct PostScript/PDF, ...)

>      Investigate Requirement for next LSB

Due to lack of manpower none of our LSB 4.0 proposals was taken into 
LSB. So simply go back to zero and re-propose them for 4.1. This time we 
need to find someone to implement test suites and to write specs 
(printer manufacturer?).

>      Color Management
> 

Windows and Mac support it on OS level AFAIK, Linux should support it, 
too. See recent discussion on OpenICC mailing list.

    Till


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