From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/3] Add KVM support to QEMU
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:39:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4908599D.8030502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081029123523.GG4269@poweredge.glommer>
Glauber Costa wrote:
>>> Another place "hook" is updating a slot's dirty bitmap. Right now,
>>> with my patchset we don't have live migration or the VGA RAM
>>> optimization. There's nothing about the VGA RAM optimization that
>>> wouldn't work for QEMU. I'm not sure that it really is an
>>> optimization in the context of TCG, but I certainly don't think it's
>>> any worse. The only thing you really need is to query the KVM dirty
>>> bitmap when it comes time to enable start over querying the VGA dirty
>>> bits.
>>>
>> I don't understand this. The VGA optimization really is qemu's, the kvm
>> modifications only cater to the different way of getting the dirty bits.
>>
>
> As it seems to me, the real difference is that qemu has to explicitly set
> certain regions as dirty, while kvm get dirty bit "automatically" from the kernel.
>
>
I'm completely lost. I don't see how one or the other is more or less
automatic, or how qemu has to explicitly set regions as dirty (except
when emulating bitblt).
> So I believe we can have markers on the code to refresh dirty bitmap for certain
> area ranges (for kvm use), and also enable a manual override (for qemu). After that,
> the cpu_physical_memory_get_dirty() will simply return whether or not the page is
> dirty.
>
Does not cpu_p_m_g_dirty() simply return whether or not the page is
dirty now?
> Also, kvm only tracks "dirty" bits, whereas qemu has at least three kinds of them.
> But I think for now we can assume that kvm's dirty mean "all dirty
kvm's dirty bits mean that kvm has seen the page written to since the
last query. A zero doesn't mean the page is clean though -- it could
have been written to by qemu.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@gmail.com>,
kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/3] Add KVM support to QEMU
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:39:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4908599D.8030502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081029123523.GG4269@poweredge.glommer>
Glauber Costa wrote:
>>> Another place "hook" is updating a slot's dirty bitmap. Right now,
>>> with my patchset we don't have live migration or the VGA RAM
>>> optimization. There's nothing about the VGA RAM optimization that
>>> wouldn't work for QEMU. I'm not sure that it really is an
>>> optimization in the context of TCG, but I certainly don't think it's
>>> any worse. The only thing you really need is to query the KVM dirty
>>> bitmap when it comes time to enable start over querying the VGA dirty
>>> bits.
>>>
>> I don't understand this. The VGA optimization really is qemu's, the kvm
>> modifications only cater to the different way of getting the dirty bits.
>>
>
> As it seems to me, the real difference is that qemu has to explicitly set
> certain regions as dirty, while kvm get dirty bit "automatically" from the kernel.
>
>
I'm completely lost. I don't see how one or the other is more or less
automatic, or how qemu has to explicitly set regions as dirty (except
when emulating bitblt).
> So I believe we can have markers on the code to refresh dirty bitmap for certain
> area ranges (for kvm use), and also enable a manual override (for qemu). After that,
> the cpu_physical_memory_get_dirty() will simply return whether or not the page is
> dirty.
>
Does not cpu_p_m_g_dirty() simply return whether or not the page is
dirty now?
> Also, kvm only tracks "dirty" bits, whereas qemu has at least three kinds of them.
> But I think for now we can assume that kvm's dirty mean "all dirty
kvm's dirty bits mean that kvm has seen the page written to since the
last query. A zero doesn't mean the page is clean though -- it could
have been written to by qemu.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-29 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-28 20:13 [PATCH 1/3] Add additional CPU flag definitions Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] Split CPUID from op_helper Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add KVM support to QEMU Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:49 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-10-28 20:49 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-10-28 20:49 ` Hollis Blanchard
[not found] ` <fb412d760810281349q2572acf0j4a3f5eff9e8a55a4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-28 21:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 21:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 21:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:57 ` Andreas Färber
2008-10-28 21:04 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-28 21:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 21:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-28 21:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-10-28 21:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-10-28 21:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 21:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 23:04 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-28 23:04 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-28 23:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 23:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 12:35 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 12:35 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 12:39 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-29 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 12:56 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 12:56 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 13:51 ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-10-29 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:16 ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-10-29 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2008-10-29 14:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 19:13 ` Blue Swirl
2008-10-29 19:13 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-01 16:25 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-01 16:25 ` Blue Swirl
2008-10-29 14:58 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 14:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 17:41 ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 17:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 19:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 13:24 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-04 13:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-11-04 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-04 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-11-04 14:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
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