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From: Andre Schwarz <andre.schwarz@matrix-vision.de>
To: Juergen Beisert <jbe@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: Re: MPC5200B: Trouble with config pins
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:58:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4926DA98.4060401@matrix-vision.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811211336.41159.jbe@pengutronix.de>

J=FCrgen,

Have a look at the manual chapter 4 (=3DReset + Config).
SRESET (issued by gpt0 - watchdog) isn't supposed to do a full hardware=20
reset.
Looks like you should make use of the SRESET and trigger HRESET according=
ly.

I could solve this with _not_ using the internal watchdog but an=20
external one (TPS3828),
i.e. watchdog timeouts and reboots are always issued by PORESET.



regards,
Andre


Juergen Beisert schrieb:
> Hi all,
>
> we have trouble with the eth based config pins (ETH0...ETH6) of the MPC=
5200B=20
> CPU. These pins act as the interface to an external phy and also act as=
=20
> configurations pins to configure the size of the flash and other things=
.=20
> While the reset is active these pins should be in their high impedance =
state=20
> and the externally connected pull down resistors should define wire's v=
oltage=20
> level. With the rising edge of the reset signal these levels will be la=
tched=20
> into internal config registers.
> We are in trouble when we want to reboot the system (also watchdog base=
d) or=20
> the internal watchdog barks and generates the CPU internal reset signal=
. In=20
> these cases these config pins will not change their level! So the wrong=
=20
> settings are latched in and our CPU is dead (misconfigured), sometimes =
a=20
> second reset helps, but most of the time only power cycling helps.
>
> What we see is:
>  - at the pins ETH_0 and ETH_3 (both are output only, when used for
>    ethernet)
>
>  * With an external 10k pulldown these lines never change their 3.3V le=
vel
>    even if the reset is active!
>  * With an external 1k pulldown these lines change their 3.3V level dow=
n to
>    something about 2.5V when the falling edge of the reset signal occur=
s.
>  * This level decreases slowly to 1.2V in about 1.2ms and than a fallin=
g edge
>    to 0V occures. Problem here is, the internal watchdog's generated re=
set
>    signal is much shorter, so the rising edge of this reset signal also
>    latches in the wrong settings and the CPU is dead.
>
> Some other things we see. A reset while:
>  - a running tftp command in U-Boot with disconnected network
>     -> system is always dead
>  - a running tftp command in U-Boot with connected network
>     -> system restarts
>    We can see in this case, the ETH_0 and ETH_3 are switching to low
>    level *immediatly* with the falling edge of the reset signal
>  - an activated interface ("ifconfig up") in Linux with *disconnected* =
network
>     -> system is always dead
>  - an activated interface ("ifconfig up") in Linux with *connected* net=
work
>     -> system is always dead
>
> Does anybody see a behaviour like ours on his/her MPC5200B based system=
?
> Does anybody have an idea what the difference between U-Boot und Linux =
could=20
> be? Bug? Feature?
>
> Regards,
> Juergen
>
>  =20


MATRIX VISION GmbH, Talstra=DFe 16, DE-71570 Oppenweiler  - Registergeric=
ht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 271090
Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Gerhard Thullner, Werner Armingeon, Uwe Furtner

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From: Andre Schwarz <andre.schwarz@matrix-vision.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] MPC5200B: Trouble with config pins
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:58:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4926DA98.4060401@matrix-vision.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811211336.41159.jbe@pengutronix.de>

J?rgen,

Have a look at the manual chapter 4 (=Reset + Config).
SRESET (issued by gpt0 - watchdog) isn't supposed to do a full hardware 
reset.
Looks like you should make use of the SRESET and trigger HRESET accordingly.

I could solve this with _not_ using the internal watchdog but an 
external one (TPS3828),
i.e. watchdog timeouts and reboots are always issued by PORESET.



regards,
Andre


Juergen Beisert schrieb:
> Hi all,
>
> we have trouble with the eth based config pins (ETH0...ETH6) of the MPC5200B 
> CPU. These pins act as the interface to an external phy and also act as 
> configurations pins to configure the size of the flash and other things. 
> While the reset is active these pins should be in their high impedance state 
> and the externally connected pull down resistors should define wire's voltage 
> level. With the rising edge of the reset signal these levels will be latched 
> into internal config registers.
> We are in trouble when we want to reboot the system (also watchdog based) or 
> the internal watchdog barks and generates the CPU internal reset signal. In 
> these cases these config pins will not change their level! So the wrong 
> settings are latched in and our CPU is dead (misconfigured), sometimes a 
> second reset helps, but most of the time only power cycling helps.
>
> What we see is:
>  - at the pins ETH_0 and ETH_3 (both are output only, when used for
>    ethernet)
>
>  * With an external 10k pulldown these lines never change their 3.3V level
>    even if the reset is active!
>  * With an external 1k pulldown these lines change their 3.3V level down to
>    something about 2.5V when the falling edge of the reset signal occurs.
>  * This level decreases slowly to 1.2V in about 1.2ms and than a falling edge
>    to 0V occures. Problem here is, the internal watchdog's generated reset
>    signal is much shorter, so the rising edge of this reset signal also
>    latches in the wrong settings and the CPU is dead.
>
> Some other things we see. A reset while:
>  - a running tftp command in U-Boot with disconnected network
>     -> system is always dead
>  - a running tftp command in U-Boot with connected network
>     -> system restarts
>    We can see in this case, the ETH_0 and ETH_3 are switching to low
>    level *immediatly* with the falling edge of the reset signal
>  - an activated interface ("ifconfig up") in Linux with *disconnected* network
>     -> system is always dead
>  - an activated interface ("ifconfig up") in Linux with *connected* network
>     -> system is always dead
>
> Does anybody see a behaviour like ours on his/her MPC5200B based system?
> Does anybody have an idea what the difference between U-Boot und Linux could 
> be? Bug? Feature?
>
> Regards,
> Juergen
>
>   


MATRIX VISION GmbH, Talstra?e 16, DE-71570 Oppenweiler  - Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 271090
Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Gerhard Thullner, Werner Armingeon, Uwe Furtner

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-21 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-21 12:36 MPC5200B: Trouble with config pins Juergen Beisert
2008-11-21 12:36 ` [U-Boot] " Juergen Beisert
2008-11-21 15:09 ` Grant Likely
2008-11-21 15:09   ` Grant Likely
2008-11-21 15:26   ` Juergen Beisert
2008-11-21 15:26     ` Juergen Beisert
2008-11-26 15:11   ` Wolfram Sang
2008-11-26 15:11     ` Wolfram Sang
2008-11-21 15:58 ` Andre Schwarz [this message]
2008-11-21 15:58   ` Andre Schwarz
2008-11-21 16:38   ` Juergen Beisert
2008-11-21 16:38     ` [U-Boot] " Juergen Beisert

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